Viper Orders Reopening

[v10enomous]

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/chrysler/2016/11/29/viper/94604150/

Dodge Viper ordering expected to reopen by year’s end
Michael Wayland, The Detroit News 12:02 p.m. EST November 29, 2016
2017 Dodge Viper ACR
(Photo: FCA US LLC)
Los Angeles — Ordering for the last production year of the Dodge Viper is expected to reopen by the end of the year, according to company officials.

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV, which produces the car, closed all Viper ordering earlier this year to assess how many cars they’ll be able to build for the supercar’s final year of production. All Viper ordering was closed Oct. 7. Ordering for the top-of-the-line ACR model closed Sept. 27.

Dodge boss Tim Kuniskis, head of Fiat Chrysler-North America passenger-car brands, said part of the problem was the company had to learn how many more orders some of its suppliers could fulfill by the end of model-year production, which is expected to be mid-2017.

“We actually had to shut down the ordering because we outran our headlights,” he told The Detroit News this month on the sidelines of the Los Angeles Auto Show. “We didn’t know if we were going to have enough parts to build all the cars that people ordered.”

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The company also has experienced a shortage of its custom-built carbon-fiber “extreme aero wings” for its track-capable ACR models, which has caused “a bunch” of Vipers to sit stagnant in Detroit while they wait for the parts.

“The demand for ACR is off the charts — way more than we ever expected,” Kuniskis said. “We are close to opening it back up now that we know how many more we can build.

“They will sell out quickly.”

Many of the final orders came from Gerry Wood Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram in Salisbury, North Carolina. The dealership ordered 135 Vipers. The dealership even created three of its own special editions through Dodge’s “One-of-One” customization program.

Kuniskis said despite demand for the roughly $90,000-$121,000 vehicle, production at Conner Avenue Assembly Plant will not continue into the 2018 model year. “It was last call, now it’s really last call,” he said.

Fiat Chrysler declined to say how many Vipers are expected to be produced or were produced for the 2016. Production for the model year started in the third quarter of 2015 and is believed to have ended this summer when model-year 2017 production began.

From September 2015 through last month, Viper sales totaled about 670 cars in the United States, including 447 cars this year. Those figures do not include Canada, where sales during the first nine months of this year have totaled fewer than 50 cars.

Since 1992, the company has built approximately 30,000 Vipers at the Mack Avenue Assembly (1992-1994) and Conner Avenue Assembly Plant (1995-current), both in Detroit.

[Snorman]

It'll be interesting to see if all the people who said they couldn't order a Viper because FCA closed the ordering banks will get their cars.
S.

[ClayR]

I doubt it.

[canadian viper]

lets hope we get some more allocation for canada. so far we only got around 50 cars allocated.

[SRT_BluByU]

Interesting no word of Conner being sold... just production ending. Retooling for Gen VI maybe?

[Murpowa]

Soo Gerry Woods purchase of all those vipers was for null now?

Also, something tells me to be cautious on build QC for most of vipers sold after reopening. Surely, most of the talent from Conner is looking elsewhere to advance their careers rather than waiting until the doors closed.

[ViperSRT]

It is ordering reopening not the plant reopening.

[ViperTony]

Well, this is good news especially for all of the buyers that were ready to order when ordering closed. It should sell out within hours of re-opening.

[EZ 2B Green]

This is great news! I'm happy for all those who will get to order a 2017. Now, let's see some more custom paint orders!!

[sharmut]

Great news, may have use for my voucher after all.

[Simms]

I hope it works out, I had a car built and ready to submit when things were shut down.

[Purple Haze]

Wow this is exciting...

[Chipster]

So you could build a 1 of 1 ACR again?

[Voice of Reason]

This sounds like a great opportunity for Gerry Wood to create a new final limited edition Viper by ordering up the new/last 40 spots!

[Policy Limits]

15k loyalty voucher: check

[AZTVR]

This sounds like a great opportunity for Gerry Wood to create a new final limited edition Viper by ordering up the new/last 40 spots!

Troublemaker !!! LOL.

[VRYALT3R3D]

lets hope we get some more allocation for canada. so far we only got around 50 cars allocated.

Agreed. I want to order a GTC ACR still. The window was too short.

[soltic]

Agreed. I want to order a GTC ACR still. The window was too short.

"From September 2015 through last month, Viper sales totaled about 670 cars in the United States, including 447 cars this year. Those figures do not include Canada, where sales during the first nine months of this year have totaled fewer than 50 cars"

There were more than 50 Canadian sold orders made.

Why open our window back up when there are outstanding orders?

Edited: Sounding too much like a Debbie Downer lol

[Martin2000GTS]

This sounds like a great opportunity for Gerry Wood to create a new final limited edition Viper by ordering up the new/last 40 spots!

lol

[Coloviper]

Great news! Too bad Timmy and Sergy were so near sighted on what the Viper could do when Extremed! There is demand for it when you give people what they want.

Hopefully a Canadian dealer does a mini Jerry Woods and buys 25 or 50 Vipers to help Canada out.

Will see where this goes! But good news for potential owners.

[One Viper Bite]

I hope it works out, I had a car built and ready to submit when things were shut down.

Same here. I have a car configured and my deposit...I was just waiting for FCA to complete the surrender of my lemoned 13 GTS.

Fingers crossed Gerry Wood doesn't have a line of "special editions" waiting to be submitted once the order banks open again.

[ACRSNK]

Not clear if the ordering is going to open for ACR's as well, or for everything but the ACR.

[ViperPete]

Lord willing... I'll be placing a 1 of 1 ACR-Extreme order within 90 days.

This is good news.

[FSTENUF]

I hope it works out, I had a car built and ready to submit when things were shut down.

Now don't drag your feet this time LOL. We have a lot of racing to do this coming year!!!

[GerryWoodViper]

Same here. I have a car configured and my deposit...I was just waiting for FCA to complete the surrender of my lemoned 13 GTS.

Fingers crossed Gerry Wood doesn't have a line of "special editions" waiting to be submitted once the order banks open again.

I think we have something like 2,300 orders waiting to be placed, all for export to UAE.

:t1567:

[GerryWoodViper]

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[BRACR]

The way I look at it......Viper orders will go back to the original premise of individual custom cars and there will be 2,435 vipers sitting in NC....lol.

[Boosted Motorsports]

I think we have something like 2,300 orders waiting to be placed, all for export to UAE.

:t1567:

No keep them here I want one soon! :P

[GerryWoodViper]

No keep them here I want one soon! :P


Just having a little fun with the not-so-silent minority.
I believe we will see a short and limited run of orders, most of which will fill those sales that are pending at Dodge dealerships with customer sold-order deposits behind them, to keep those who have been upset by the sudden demand and had missed out.
Those who love to complain for the sake of it and just to be heard, unfortunately, this will not quite them. They'll search out and find something else to whine about.

[Coloviper]

Why feed into it? You have sold quite a few of that large order already so proves it was the right move for Jerry Wood. I didn't care for the combos spec'd but what the hell do I know? You sold the big dollar pink ACRE. I would have never thought that would sell. Hope a few that will pull the trigger get the car they want. You are lucky to be able to do that.

[v10enomous]

I can't wait to see one of those Snakeskin ACR E cars...

[Simms]

Now don't drag your feet this time LOL. We have a lot of racing to do this coming year!!!

Haha! You should have kicked me in the ass!

[ViperTony]

Those who love to complain for the sake of it and just to be heard, unfortunately, this will not quite them. They'll search out and find something else to whine about.

You catch on quick. You're the shiny new thing to whine about in the GenV troll world. Take it as a compliment and a curse. :p

[One Viper Bite]

Just having a little fun with the not-so-silent minority.
I believe we will see a short and limited run of orders, most of which will fill those sales that are pending at Dodge dealerships with customer sold-order deposits behind them, to keep those who have been upset by the sudden demand and had missed out.
Those who love to complain for the sake of it and just to be heard, unfortunately, this will not quite them. They'll search out and find something else to whine about.

I fail to see how my comment warrants a response like this. I also fail to see how I have "whined" in any way when it comes to what FCA allowed your dealership to do. In no way have I ever insulted you or what you did. I simply have an opinion that myself and several others shared when FCA closed the order banks after your dealership placed that massive order. The 1 of 1 program was designed for the customer, period. Many of us hadn't pulled the trigger on a 1 of 1 because we had other factors at play. I, myself, was dealing with surrendering a lemoned GTS and FCA was taking their time with it.

All good, because a dealership already has my business, and it certainly isn't yours.

Show some class. I was fine with your first response, it actually made me laugh in good spirit. But following that up with a generalization about me or anyone else that doesn't agree with your point of view is immature.

[uberpube]

FCA appears to be squeezing out every penny before it closes but resources are limited - my guess if anything will be another special / final edition eliminating guess work.
Wood grain Iacocca special edition with plastic wheel covers ?

[SRZ]

Does anyone actually know when the order banks open?

[gerardsauto]

Same here. I have a car configured and my deposit...I was just waiting for FCA to complete the surrender of my lemoned 13 GTS.

Fingers crossed Gerry Wood doesn't have a line of "special editions" waiting to be submitted once the order banks open again.

I am new to this forum and never posted. I have a 13 GTS as well and I'm curious to know why your car was lemoned. Thanks, sorry for the thread jack. Feel free to PM me if you like.

[Dman]

I am new to this forum and never posted. I have a 13 GTS as well and I'm curious to know why your car was lemoned. Thanks, sorry for the thread jack. Feel free to PM me if you like.

You should ask what wasn't wrong with it, it'll be a shorter reply. He had a demon possessed build, real shame, but it happens. There a few buy backs here and there, usually engine, electrical, diffs, etc.

[One Viper Bite]

I am new to this forum and never posted. I have a 13 GTS as well and I'm curious to know why your car was lemoned. Thanks, sorry for the thread jack. Feel free to PM me if you like.

Sure thing. Will PM you now.


You should ask what wasn't wrong with it, it'll be a shorter reply. He had a demon possessed build, real shame, but it happens. There a few buy backs here and there, usually engine, electrical, diffs, etc.

LOL Dman. Ain't that the damn truth. Like you, I was shopping around for an alternative when the order banks closed. The MP4 started to grow on me, but now that there is a chance I can do a 1 of 1 still, I think that I there isn't a car in this price range that will satiate me the way a 1 of 1 GTC would.

Like I said, fingers crossed it's true and that those of us that had an order ready can get ours in before the GW special edition run #2 clogs it all up again.

[BRACR]

I will be interested on how many orders occur once the banks are open....I do not think it will be a small number. I agree with Rexius. I was joking in my last post but I think it will hard to sell 135 Vipers that may not have the options buyers want....with all due respect to GW. In additon, I am sure there a a number of individuals on this site and others that are not that did not like what happened but are not voicing their opinions so a vocal minority is not the case IMHO. The ninth viper (since 1995) I will have owned just finished being built and I am heading in two weeks to discuss an ACR-E build with my dealer.

[v10enomous]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dodge-brings-viper-back-dead-084437614.html

Dodge hasn’t announced precisely when the 2017 Viper will again be available, and we don’t know how much it will cost. If you want one, our advice is to get in line as soon as possible. The last Vipers ever built will certainly sell out fast regardless of how much Dodge chooses to ask for them, and production will end once and for all once the company runs out of parts.

[commandomatt]

Like I said, fingers crossed it's true and that those of us that had an order ready can get ours in before the GW special edition run #2 clogs it all up again.

Really....in a few posts ago you speak of 'showing some class' and 'maturity'....then just keep making comments like a teenager that didnt get it his way

Just place your order for the 1 of 1 as soon as possible before they close the order banks again. When they open, I am sure it wont last for long and those that didn't get off the pot, will once again let everyone know how they just missed it by days

[SSGNRDZ_28]

IMO anyone serious about an order should be speaking to their dealer of choice now, have their configuration finalized ASAP, and have the dealer's finger on the trigger with approval to place the order as soon as the light turns green.

[Purple Haze]

Funny!!! Please order more purple ones so I can go completely broke!
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[commandomatt]

I will be interested on how many orders occur once the banks are open....I do not think it will be a small number. I agree with Rexius. I was joking in my last post but I think it will hard to sell 135 Vipers that may not have the options buyers want....with all due respect to GW. In additon, I am sure there a a number of individuals on this site and others that are not that did not like what happened but are not voicing their opinions so a vocal minority is not the case IMHO. The ninth viper (since 1995) I will have owned just finished being built and I am heading in two weeks to discuss an ACR-E build with my dealer.

I personally dont think GW will have a problem selling those Vipers, given some time. The 1 of 1 program is very recent and people bought Vipers for years before this option was available. In other words, you pick one that you like even though it may not have exactly the options your would have choosen if your would have ordered it.

This is the end of the line for the Viper as we know it. It has got some serious press lately and these cars are getting the attention they deserve. It will be interesting to see how many more will be sold/built before it's all over

[Snorman]

Vipers are going to sell the same number of units on a monthly basis as they have for the last 4 years. That's about 50 cars per month, some months higher, some months lower. There won't be some mad rush where FCA sells hundreds (or even a hundred) of Vipers a month.
S.

[ViperDC]

I fail to see how my comment warrants a response like this. I also fail to see how I have "whined" in any way when it comes to what FCA allowed your dealership to do. In no way have I ever insulted you or what you did. I simply have an opinion that myself and several others shared when FCA closed the order banks after your dealership placed that massive order. The 1 of 1 program was designed for the customer, period. Many of us hadn't pulled the trigger on a 1 of 1 because we had other factors at play. I, myself, was dealing with surrendering a lemoned GTS and FCA was taking their time with it.

All good, because a dealership already has my business, and it certainly isn't yours.

Show some class. I was fine with your first response, it actually made me laugh in good spirit. But following that up with a generalization about me or anyone else that doesn't agree with your point of view is immature.

Wah

Now all the "oh I was going to buy one for sure" people can have their chance.

[GerryWoodViper]

Wah

Now all the "oh I was going to buy one for sure" people can have their chance.

All the "I'm gunna sit on this fence and talk for another couple months, having talked about ordering a one of one for the past 18 months" people... that's what I'm referring to. It's amazing. Our order just interrupted that dialogue to themselves (behind their avatar of course).

It's no different than the conversations most all of us have had...

"Man, when you go to sell that Viper give me a call"

Ring, Ring....

Ring, Ring...

Hello, anyone home?

LOL

[serpent]

IMO anyone serious about an order should be speaking to their dealer of choice now, have their configuration finalized ASAP, and have the dealer's finger on the trigger with approval to place the order as soon as the light turns green.
I'd love to order a new one, but I have to pay to play at that level. So buying used is the only option for me. I have a nice down too, just don't want to pay too high of a monthly.

I'll get there someday!!

[One Viper Bite]

Really....in a few posts ago you speak of 'showing some class' and 'maturity'....then just keep making comments like a teenager that didnt get it his way

Just place your order for the 1 of 1 as soon as possible before they close the order banks again. When they open, I am sure it wont last for long and those that didn't get off the pot, will once again let everyone know how they just missed it by days

"Like I said, fingers crossed it's true and that those of us that had an order ready can get ours in before the GW special edition run #2 clogs it all up again." How is this a "teenager" comment? Is it not the truth? Did the order banks not close because of the large order GW placed in October? Or was it just a coincidence?


I will be interested on how many orders occur once the banks are open....I do not think it will be a small number. I agree with Rexius. I was joking in my last post but I think it will hard to sell 135 Vipers that may not have the options buyers want....with all due respect to GW. In additon, I am sure there a a number of individuals on this site and others that are not that did not like what happened but are not voicing their opinions so a vocal minority is not the case IMHO. The ninth viper (since 1995) I will have owned just finished being built and I am heading in two weeks to discuss an ACR-E build with my dealer.

Agreed with you as well. I know that there are others with similar situations to mine that had other uncontrollable factors at play that prevented them from getting their order in.

Look, at this point, all I care about is getting my 1 of 1 order in when the order banks open, and I hope everyone who has an order ready like I do can get theirs in on time before they close again for good.

[PkB2014]

In all likelihood the order banks will be open for maybe 1-2 hours before selling out again so if you don't have your order into your dealer right now you should hurry up. Don't "have your order ready" because you might not hear when the orders are officially open until after they closed again. Have your order into your dealer with your deposit paid and in the system ready to go official as soon as FCA begins accepting orders again.

Just my thoughts.

[One Viper Bite]

In all likelihood the order banks will be open for maybe 1-2 hours before selling out again so if you don't have your order into your dealer right now you should hurry up. Don't "have your order ready" because you might not hear when the orders are officially open until after they closed again. Have your order into your dealer with your deposit paid and in the system ready to go official as soon as FCA begins accepting orders again.

Just my thoughts.

Don't worry, I already do, and I've had my order ready and with a dealer since October now.

I hope everyone else does too.

[Track Pack]

I think this is great news, glad to hear it

[ViperSmith]

Unsure why GW gets all the heat. VE ordered more for stock than them. Been posted on social media and no ones said anything about it here.

[Dman]

In all likelihood the order banks will be open for maybe 1-2 hours before selling out again so if you don't have your order into your dealer right now you should hurry up. Don't "have your order ready" because you might not hear when the orders are officially open until after they closed again. Have your order into your dealer with your deposit paid and in the system ready to go official as soon as FCA begins accepting orders again.

Just my thoughts.

It'll be interesting to see. May be correct. I wonder though, if GW hadn't ordered 130 at once then orders would never have closed with normal buyers. And here we are. Still, I'm playing it safe too, and ready and set. So ... how long from order to delivery? Ugh. My orig plan was to order by Sept for over the winter and delivery before spring, now, so much for spring, or early summer, oh well, no complaints as long as orders open.

[AZTVR]

FCA closed the ordering banks


once the order banks open again.


when FCA closed the order banks


Does anyone actually know when the order banks open?


I will be interested on how many orders occur once the banks are open


before they close the order banks again.


In all likelihood the order banks will be open

LOL !!!!! What is an order bank? Does Dodge have a room of people sitting there ready to answer the phones like QVC or PBS pledge drive?

Sounds like some phrase out of the 70s. How old are you guys ? :witless:

[v10enomous]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/want-dodge-viper-better-order-024828893.html


"There is a glimmer of hope for the Viper to reemerge in the future, but it's faint at best."

[commandomatt]

LOL !!!!! What is an order bank? Does Dodge have a room of people sitting there ready to answer the phones like QVC or PBS pledge drive?



That's right. There will be 24 people with head sets standing by and when they make the 56 Vipers left to order available, it will be over in 12 minutes flat.......dont blink or you will miss it.

[VRYALT3R3D]

"From September 2015 through last month, Viper sales totaled about 670 cars in the United States, including 447 cars this year. Those figures do not include Canada, where sales during the first nine months of this year have totaled fewer than 50 cars"

There were more than 50 Canadian sold orders made.

Why open our window back up when there are outstanding orders?

Edited: Sounding too much like a Debbie Downer lol

The ordering window was only 10 days until it was abruptly closed. This was back in April(I think)

[v10enomous]

http://www.opptrends.com/2016/12/2018-dodge-viper-would-you-like-to-see-it/

2018 Dodge Viper, Would you like to see it?
By Emily Atkinson - December 2, 20160

Source:motortrend.com


Dodge Viper is a name that ‘rings a bell’ to each and every car enthusiast out there. From this, you can conclude that the vehicle has been present on the market since the beginning of time. Sorry to disappoint you but this is not the case with this venomous model. Dodge Viper was for the first time presented at the 1989 Detroit Auto Show and has since captured the hearts of many. Loved for his design and performance, this sports car has lived long enough to witness its demise.

2017 Dodge Viper MY was the last one to exit Conner Avenue Assembly plant. If you wish to order one, you still have time because, as we already wrote, high demand for what is thought to be the last generation of Viper, Dodge is going to manufacture more than it was originally planned.


The situation now looks opposite than it was just last year. The car that was a small seller now has high demand. This, of course, has all to do with 2017 MY being labeled as last of its kind. But people in Dodge and its parent company FCA together with Viper lovers now have a little something to think about. Is there a space in the market for new Viper, maybe 2018 Dodge Viper?


Source:motortrend.com
Main reasons for discontinuation of Viper were low selling, failing to meet safety regulations and expectations that Vipers 8.4-liter V-10 tuned to deliver 645 horsepower and 600 pound-feet of torque would fail to meet gas emission standards that are going to be stricter from the beginning of 2018.

From a position where Viper and we stand now, things have changed. Few months have passed, and Viper now has high, not low demand. Safety standards are being followed with every other Dodge and FCA model, so this could be done with Viper too. The only thing left is the question of the powertrain.

The current engine is good but old. Even if weren’t for discontinuation this powertrain would have to be discarded. The reason is simple. All of the FCA models are slowly being transferred to modular Alfa Romeos RWD architecture that debuted with Giulia. This platform would mean that Viper must ditch the V10.

No V10, no problem! Challenger, Barracuda, and Charger are all being treated to Ferrari’s twin-turbo V6 that has over 600hp, at least that is what rumors are implying. Same could be done with Viper.

With the new platform, new engine and recent growth in popularity 2018 Dodge Viper sounds like a real possibility. What do you say, is there room for new Viper.

[ViperJon]

Two phrases that should never be associated with Vipers. "Future collectable" and "Final edition".
It'll be back. Car manufacturers never let a well known nameplate die.

[swexlin]

Two phrases that should never be associated with Vipers. "Future collectable" and "Final edition".
It'll be back. Car manufacturers never let a well known nameplate die.

I agree Jon. I believe it will be back in a couple years.

[One Viper Bite]

I agree Jon. I believe it will be back in a couple years.

But not a true Viper. No V10...that, I'm sure of.

[CarolinaViper]

Two phrases that should never be associated with Vipers. "Future collectable" and "Final edition".
It'll be back. Car manufacturers never let a well known nameplate die.

Took them 34 years to bring back the "Challenger" as we knew it back in the 70's.

[slysnake]

Here's to our vipers appreciating in value over the years then. :drive:

[Lawrenzo]

But not a true Viper. No V10...that, I'm sure of.


No 426 cubic inch V8...not a true Challenger?? Don't tell that to the Hellcat owners.

[FLATOUT]

Unsure why GW gets all the heat. VE ordered more for stock than them. Been posted on social media and no ones said anything about it here.

Probably because the majority of our orders were of the actual Dodge Final Edition cars with a few 1 of 1's, and others thrown in which kept the 1 of 1 ordering banks open for customer spec'd purchases.

[ACRSNK]

Thought the order banks were supposed to open by the end of December...wonder if/when this will happen as its already a whole day past the end of December and sill nothing!!! C'mon FCA! What are you waiting for?!

Happy New Year everyone!

[uberpube]

Two phrases that should never be associated with Vipers. "Future collectable" and "Final edition".
It'll be back. Car manufacturers never let a well known nameplate die.
Road runner, superbird, valiant, barracuda, ramcharger, polara, satellite, Dodge Truck, Fargo, Imperial, dynasty, New Yorker, diplomat, Le baron,Duster, Prowler, Cordoba, 5th avenue, intrepid, laser, Newport, etc etc etc etc.

[Snorman]

Thought the order banks were supposed to open by the end of December...wonder if/when this will happen as its already a whole day past the end of December and sill nothing!!! C'mon FCA! What are you waiting for?!

Happy New Year everyone!Careful using the term "order banks". Your choice of verbiage will lead to scorn from a guy who once owned a Gen 2 for eight years and sold it five years ago.
S.

[Coloviper]

Honestly, if they bring back a variant and it is a 700HP V8S or V6TT, does anyone even want it to be called a Viper? I don't!

Let that new model be called something else and build its own heritage. Nothing wrong with that at all. If no V10, then do the Viper name right and just retire it. It has earned that honor!

[Stealth78]

Honestly, if they bring back a variant and it is a 700HP V8S or V6TT, does anyone even want it to be called a Viper? I don't!

Let that new model be called something else and build its own heritage. Nothing wrong with that at all. If no V10, then do the Viper name right and just retire it. It has earned that honor!

I agree with you 100%. The last thing I want to see is a TT V6 "Viper".

[Martin]

Keep in mind that everything is shut down over there - so even if they wanted to open the ordering system, there's nobody there to do it...

[v10enomous]

Honestly, if they bring back a variant and it is a 700HP V8S or V6TT, does anyone even want it to be called a Viper? I don't!



I watched this the other day again for the third or fourth time over the years and it really speaks to significance of the V10 engine configuration to the identity of the car.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6XV05dCOcs

[Dman]

I agree with you 100%. The last thing I want to see is a TT V6 "Viper".

This is where we'll have a split in the community. In my 17 yrs of owning vipers, I couldn't care less how many cylinders it has. I got into them because they are America's 'exotic' and beats everything on the track. If they release a new viper with whatever power plant, that beats $1M+ super cars around the track and sets 13+ track records again, I'd be looking hard at it. This is the issue I have with collectability etc., if a new gen6 blows the perf doors off prev gens, then I dunno, I'm not sure the world endears the v10 like a portion of the club does. It'll be interesting. Meanwhile, I'm really disappointed ordering didn't reopen sooner, but pulling the trigger now as I'm tired of waiting, I just wish dealers had ordered a few more silver cars, oh well.

[GerryWoodViper]

My calendar says "January 2, 2017" and my DealerConnect still says Viper orders are closed. It's amazing to me that everyone still allows "news" from FCA to make them get so worked up, negative, angry and resentful..... seeing as it never really happens to come to fruition.

Unfortunately the result was that people (real buyers) ran to their local dealer, gave their "specs" and got in a line (some a very long of orders behind hopeful allocation) with fingers crossed and prayers made that the dealer will get an allocation slot and that they will be given that slot. There are going to be a lot of upset people from this.... Let's all remember, the factory absolutely shuts down this summer. They can only build 2 ACR's per day. Do the math. It's glaring that there will be very, very (very!) limited additional cars.

Of course, so many vocal people here didn't even do that..... I call it the "bark vs bite" syndrome. Yes, I'm calling out the few people on this forum for what they are.... those who make a hobby of complaining behind an anonymous avatar.

We've taken zero (0) deposits for this opening up of allocation. Why? Because it's a prayer and a hope. We do not want to disappoint anyone who is sincere about buying a new Viper.

We ordered cars when no one was ordering them (confirmed by FCA) and our cars on our website www.gerrywoodviper.com are available and in D status or better. If it's not marked "sold" on the first photo - you can have it.

It's the only real way to guarantee that you will get a car.

We had 12 cars drop last week, and they are gorgeous, unique and amazing in their own right. Several are sold. Some are not. If you want a Viper, one might consider this the best opportunity in a long time, for a long time.

[Stealth78]

This is where we'll have a split in the community. In my 17 yrs of owning vipers, I couldn't care less how many cylinders it has. I got into them because they are America's 'exotic' and beats everything on the track. If they release a new viper with whatever power plant, that beats $1M+ super cars around the track and sets 13+ track records again, I'd be looking hard at it. This is the issue I have with collectability etc., if a new gen6 blows the perf doors off prev gens, then I dunno, I'm not sure the world endears the v10 like a portion of the club does. It'll be interesting. Meanwhile, I'm really disappointed ordering didn't reopen sooner, but pulling the trigger now as I'm tired of waiting, I just wish dealers had ordered a few more silver cars, oh well.

I see your point but all I am saying is after 25 years of production and the Viper being iconic for it's V10, if Chrysler decides to do something different (V8 or V6) then I hope that they are creative enough to come up with a different name.

[Martin]

I see your point but all I am saying is after 25 years of production and the Viper being iconic for it's V10, if Chrysler decides to do something different (V8 or V6) then I hope that they are creative enough to come up with a different name.

Not to be too wishful, but something along the lines of the ME-412 would get my heart pumping. Refresh the styling to appeal to more of today's buyers, and they have a mid-engined supercar that theoretically blows the doors off of the new mid-engined Corvette.

Let's face it - Viper is a great brand and a great car. That said, even though I love the car, that odd-firing V10 never sat well with me, and the exhaust does sound like a UPS truck. No way around that - it's just the nature of the beast, and it is uniquely Viper. Some people love it, some hate it - and that's what makes some cars garner a cult following. But, if they came out with something totally new and exotic, threw a turbo V12 in it, make it mid-engined, and style it by the folks in Italy who really know their stuff, keep it an American brand, and I'd be all over it.

That's not to say I'd get rid of my Vipers, but I'd certainly look to another American supercar to add to the stable (finances willing).

Back to the original topic of this thread - I do believe the orders will open up for a very short amount of time. So, if you want to get something ordered, visit a high-volume dealer, get in line, and spec it out and put a refundable deposit down to show you're serious. When orders do open up (for a day or two) you might just win the lottery. If you don't get in line soon enough, you're SOL and FCA can just say "well, we gave you two or three chances now, and it's your own damned fault for not jumping when we say jump." Sadly, they'll be correct with that statement.

Keep in mind that for now, they are shut down. I think they open back up this week or next (I think they shut down on the 21st for two weeks, so we can do the math). Nothing happens when nobody is working - and be ready for orders to open when people are back on the job. That's just my personal guess at how this will shake out.

[Purple Haze]

That was awesome never seen it. Now it's back to work!!!


I watched this the other day again for the third or fourth time over the years and it really speaks to significance of the V10 engine configuration to the identity of the car.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6XV05dCOcs

[99RT10]

Anybody who is thinking a Gen 6 is coming is living in wonderland. The car is dead. What you got is the last best Gen in the 5 and if you want one, see Woodhouse, VE or Gerrywood, that is your choice for new. Plenty of older Gens out there too. Here is to the best Viper produced :very_drunk:

[Larryskillzs]

They will make another Viper. Dodge is not a pussy company like Honda where they are conservative. They make Vipers, Hellcats and other amazing SRT products that are badass. FCA is such a big company and the Viper is so ionic I hope they don't limit themselves to the V10. I would be ok with a 700-800hp reliable 8 cylinder with 2020 technology(electric assist or a boosted engine)

If any one of you guys own or test drove a Tesla P100, the torque from those electric motors is BANANAS. I know I'll be interested in a next gen Viper if they make one.