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Racingbrake
11-18-2016, 09:46 AM
Some members inquired for affordable CCM brake kits for GTS/TA, so I did some research and found these advertised on internet.

http://www.racingsolutions.com/categories/dodge/viper-gen-5-2013/brakes/big-brake-kits.html

http://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbworld.org-vbulletin/600x360/80-ccm_brake_kit_380x34_f_360x28_r__c5394b416611140e2 90369295b22dcfe750ac80b.png

Front Kit Contains the Following:

Caliper - 6 Piston - Red
Discs - 380x34 CCM-R Pre-Bedded
Pads - Brembo Spec'd - Pre-Bedded

Rear Kit Contains the Following:

Caliper - 4 Piston - Red
Discs - 360x28 CCM-R Pre-Bedded
Pads - Brembo Spec'd - Pre-Bedded


Another vender with the same contents:

http://www.specialtyperformanceteam.com/shop/pc/Brembo-Stage-4-GT-CCM-R-Kit-Slotted-Dodge-Viper-2003-2010-p34.htm

http://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbworld.org-vbulletin/600x360/80-ccm_brake_kit_32_990__6350604d37cca460cfc384e89df6 651fc7ba1215.png

Comparing to Tim's conversion kit (http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/15131-ACR-CCB-s-on-non-ACR-Gen-V?highlight=brake) the advantage of these kit appear to be

No need to change rear spindle
May fit under 18" wheels (Rotor is 380mm vs. ACR-E 390mm)

But at a much higher cost, so what other options available?

Dr.Ron
11-18-2016, 10:41 AM
I'm not seeing the affordable part still! lol

Ron

texasram
11-18-2016, 11:28 AM
SRT should have had ccb's atleast an option from the start, the zr1, z06, and the new GRAND SPORT for cryin out loud has them, the zr1 came out in 09 and the new grand sport as good of a drivers car that it is, is only 460 pathetic hp

Dr.Ron
11-18-2016, 11:31 AM
Yup. My 2011 Carbon Edition had them as well. They were AMAZING brakes!

Ron

BlknBlu
11-18-2016, 12:17 PM
I am rarely a Debbie Downer, but the price of the GEN IV brakes is half the price of a good used GEN IV coupe with decent brakes already on it.

Nice find though

Bruce

Bruce H.
11-18-2016, 03:14 PM
Does anyone feel they need them for braking performance or is it just a style thing they would like? Assuming those who track aggressively already bought the stouter brakes on Track Pack or TA models.

Stealth78
11-18-2016, 04:19 PM
Holy sheep shit!!!!!!!!!!

VENOM V
11-18-2016, 04:40 PM
Does anyone feel they need them for braking performance or is it just a style thing they would like? Assuming those who track aggressively already bought the strouter brakes on Track Pack or TA models.

I was at the point on my GTS where I couldn't get the TA rotors and track pads to hold up for more than 1 track day. It was time for a 6-piston big brake kit in the front. Then the ACR was announced, problem solved :)

It is possible that a good fabricated ducting system (not the ACR ducts, something more serious) would have allowed the 4-piston iron brakes to suffice, but I had one fab shop work on a ducting solution and give up.

A big iron brake kit or CCMs are the way to go, in my opinion.

GTSilver
11-18-2016, 05:31 PM
I was at the point on my GTS where I couldn't get the TA rotors and track pads to hold up for more than 1 track day. It was time for a 6-piston big brake kit in the front. Then the ACR was announced, problem solved :)

It is possible that a good fabricated ducting system (not the ACR ducts, something more serious) would have allowed the 4-piston iron brakes to suffice, but I had one fab shop work on a ducting solution and give up.

A big iron brake kit or CCMs are the way to go, in my opinion.

I agree as well, although the TA brakes should be more than enough as advertised but compared to other cars it isn't that good. I've tried it with both OEM pads and with carbotrech. Yes with the carbotech they were better but still not that great, maybe its the brake bias or the as its a 4 piston and a 355mm rotor it doesn't handle track days that well. I drive in bahrain international circuit and its one of the hardest tracks on brakes that per both f1 and brembo due to its long straights and not enough time to cool down the brakes. I'm still undecided whether to go ccm or a iron bbk.

TooBlue
11-18-2016, 05:33 PM
Not to offend Racing Brake but does anybody know any one that has or would install this brake system for $32K?

You can install the ACR-X brake system on a Gen 3 or 4 with the modified fascia cooling ducts, CF caliper shrouds etc. and have more than $25K left over....???

Now if this system would knock 10+ seconds off a 2 minute lap time,... maybe

Racingbrake
11-18-2016, 07:26 PM
Not at all. We just share with you for what's available in the market and their prevailing cost.

Here is a same kit for BMW M4:

BMW CCM kit for M3/M4 F82 (380x34/360x28)

Front $19,099.20: https://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/brembo-gt-r-ccm-r-380x34-ccm-r-6-piston-drilled-front-big-brake-kit-bmw-m4-f82-2015-p-150943996.html
Rear $17,755.20: https://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/brembo-gt-r-drilled-360x28-ccm-r-4-piston-rear-big-brake-kit-bmw-m4-f82-2015-p-150944004.html

Total $36,854.4

This pricing bracket is not for everybody but I am sure someone are buying them.

But that's not our price, not only we have in depth knowledge and resource to design and build various CCM brake kits (next week we are shipping the complete kit for Porsche MaCan Turbo) for different car make/models, but we are the most price competitive CCM brake mfr in the industry.

You can take a look of what we have to offer for Porsche's (from 993 to 991 GT3), and get an idea of our coverage and pricing.

http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7200.htm

And GTR R35:
http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7417.htm

And All:
http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7388.htm

NT-ACR
11-18-2016, 08:45 PM
If people are serious about a great set of rotors that's even less than the prices posted above, give Tom Frederico a call or shot him an email.

Email- tom@tfent.com
Phone- 858-883-2655

He's the North American distributor for MOV'IT and a genuinely awesome guy to work with. I used his products on my P-cars back when I used to track frequently and most recently nearly pulled the trigger on a set for my Scuderia before I sold it.

Anyway, I'm not promising that he will have a solution but if you give him the basics on clearances and things like that, I'm sure he can provide a kit that works with the stock wheels.

FYI- If I'm remembering correctly, the complete kit including calipers was ~$19,000 and a set of replacement rotors was ~$13,000.

Hope this helps.

parabs
11-18-2016, 09:22 PM
I think RacingBrake is gauging interest in coming up with a front/rear ccb kit that works under 18" wheels up front.

I think if the kit was cost effective, plenty of ppl who own oem sw2 wheels would buy them to save themselves from the assache of cleaning said wheels.

I think that if the performance levels increased even just a bit over the oem 2pc track pack/TA/gen4 ACR oem brakes they would sell a load of these kits.

I know I'd be (very) interested.

@RacingBrake. Do it.

NT-ACR
11-18-2016, 09:27 PM
I think RacingBrake is gauging interest in coming up with a front/rear ccb kit that works under 18" wheels up front.

I think if the kit was cost effective, plenty of ppl who own oem sw2 wheels would buy them to save themselves from the assache of cleaning said wheels.

I think that if the performance levels increased even just a bit over the oem 2pc track pack/TA/gen4 ACR oem brakes they would sell a load of these kits.

I know I'd be (very) interested.

@RacingBrake. Do it.

What's considered "cost effective"?

parabs
11-19-2016, 12:25 AM
What's considered "cost effective"?

I supposed that definition varies from one member to another.

I have found 355 carbon ceramic rings so if racingbrake came to market with that size reusing the oem calipers and appropriate pads I'm sure that would be the most cost effective option. 380 rings with an option to keep the oem calipers would be next, then 380 with 6 pot f/4 pot r would be next moving up another level...

Simms
11-19-2016, 02:12 PM
I believe Nth Moto also has CCB options for Gen 3/4 cars.

1of1TA1.0
11-19-2016, 04:20 PM
You can do CCM/CCB's with the factory parts for under $20K directly from Dodge with factory parts. They can utilize 18" wheels if you go with the forgeline or the Finnspeed. More options may become available as well.

parabs
11-19-2016, 08:56 PM
What's considered "cost effective"?

First off, I hope that RacingBrake doesn't mind that I post pricing from another company, that shall remain nameless, for 355x32 CCM rotors and pads. I don't want to brake any rules, but more importantly, RacingBrake is an active participant on these forums and I have learned plenty by reading their posts and the discussion it has inspired. For those reasons I will not openly disclose the other company I obtained pricing for. I am also hopeful that RacingBrake will come to market with a 355x32 CCM rotor and pad option for the majority of the viper owners on this board.

$6690 includes:

Front and rear 2pc ceramic rotors
Front and rear pads
bell hats and drive pins are included
stoptech bell hats will not work with this vendors ceramic rotor rings
2 week leadtime.

parabs
11-19-2016, 08:58 PM
You can do CCM/CCB's with the factory parts for under $20K directly from Dodge with factory parts. They can utilize 18" wheels if you go with the forgeline or the Finnspeed. More options may become available as well.

your brake upgrade thread is full of great information, part number lists etc. it's awesome!!

Racingbrake
11-22-2016, 08:17 AM
First off, I hope that RacingBrake doesn't mind that I post pricing from another company, that shall remain nameless, for 355x32 CCM rotors and pads. I don't want to brake any rules, but more importantly, RacingBrake is an active participant on these forums and I have learned plenty by reading their posts and the discussion it has inspired. For those reasons I will not openly disclose the other company I obtained pricing for. I am also hopeful that RacingBrake will come to market with a 355x32 CCM rotor and pad option for the majority of the viper owners on this board.

$6690 includes:

Front and rear 2pc ceramic rotors
Front and rear pads
bell hats and drive pins are included
stoptech bell hats will not work with this vendors ceramic rotor rings
2 week leadtime.

Not at all, more options and choice is always beneficial to a consumer, with more info and comparison (objective data, not marketing material) it can help one make a better decision.

I believe this is the kit you were referring to:

http://www.wilwood.com/brakekits/BrakeKitListFront.aspx?mincatdesc=AERO6%20WCCB%20C arbon-Ceramic%20Big%20Brake%20Front%20Brake%20Kit


1. Price is for front kit only (no rear), and application is for Chevy and Mustang only - No Viper.

2. Even it's available for Viper the rotor size 355x32mm and thin pad (48x149mm) is made for street driving (https://www.carid.com/2014-ford-mustang-brakes/wilwood-street-performance-carbon-ceramic-brake-kit-49740117.html) and for not for tracking your Viper.

3. Durability and rotor ring replacement cost are unknown.

Racingbrake
11-22-2016, 09:05 AM
Racingbrake is pleased to announce an RB-CCB brake kit for Viper. This kit is specially designed to fit 18" wheels for both G3/4/5 as an upgrade; and G6 w/CCB to down size to 18" (from stock 19") for better clearance and tire availability.

http://www.racingbrake.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2C44

Kit includes:

2 RB 6-Piston heavy duty front caliper
2 Front CCB rotors (380x34mm)
2 Aluminum alloy caliper adapters (including high strength 12.9 grade mounting bolts)
1 Axle set of Stainless steel braided brake line
1 Axle set of RB XT910 street pad

Racingbrake
11-22-2016, 09:24 AM
RB calipers are designed and built for ultimate performance under extreme heat. Here are some threads about calipers design / construction detail with feature comparison with Brembo (OE) and Alcon - two brands that were most familiar to GTR track drivers.


Ultimate Brake Upgrade for Nissan GTR (An upgrade beyond rotor & pad) (http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=1379&highlight=nissan)

How Can A Caliper Design Affect the Braking Performance (http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=1422&highlight=brembo+caliper)


Quick impression so far of RB calipers with WGP ZR1 rotors (http://www.gtrheritage.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&fromMainBar=1)

Racing Brake Replacement Caliper Review (In Depth) (http://www.gtrheritage.com/topic/2590-racing-brake-replacement-caliper-review/page-8?hl=%2Bracingbrake#entry66974)

Quick link to the caliper feature comparison table:
http://www.gtrheritage.com/topic/2590-racing-brake-replacement-caliper-review/page-8#entry66746

Rotors were designed to use Corvette C6 ZR1 CCM rear disc (380x34mm) with track proven success, easily accessible through online retailer or GM dealer) and at very affordable price. Rotor hat and hardware are designed and made exclusively by RB (we don't re-use Brembo's hardware like others) for easy assembly/disassembly with lasting durability and strength.

Brake pads are standard FMSI shape with 165mm width - Lots of choice in aftermarket compounds:

D1116 MB CLK55 (depth=55mm)
D1365 Lexus ISF (depth=55mm)
D1666 Mustang GT500 (trim 2mm at bottom, depth = 63mm)

Racingbrake
11-22-2016, 10:18 PM
Link to down load the wheel fitment template:[/B]
http://www.racingbrake.com/v/downloads/2C44fitment.pdf

q8blueviper
11-23-2016, 02:36 AM
32K $ is an affordable price for the breaks .... shit I cant imagine the non affordable price !

Trainerdave
11-24-2016, 12:27 AM
I am rarely a Debbie Downer, but the price of the GEN IV brakes is half the price of a good used GEN IV coupe with decent brakes already on it.

Nice find though

Bruce

You can get into a ton of great used cars at 40k, 32k for breaks ? ...... no thanks.

sadil
11-24-2016, 01:54 AM
Great price on the RB front brakes, im assuming rear kit is also on its way??

AZTVR
11-24-2016, 08:50 AM
You can get into a ton of great used cars at 40k, 32k for breaks ? ...... no thanks.

lol ! The Miata enthusiasts say the same type things about the cost of Gen V Vipers. Those "brakes" are not marketed to you or me. I would never buy a Rolex; nor would I buy aftermarket CCM brakes at any price. It is fun to read about what the uber rich guys buy though. It certainly does look like there has been sufficient market for those CCM brakes, though.

ek1
11-24-2016, 11:56 PM
I think some of the posters here are missing the point.

$32K is the MSRP that Brembo charges. Obviously nobody would pay that (well, unless you own an oil well).

Looking at RacingBrake web site, each axle is $7,934.11, so the total cost seems to be $15,868.22. With stock ACR rotors retailing for $4,100 (EACH), even if you can get them for $2,800 each or so, you are at $11,200 already, so whenever your stock rotors are shot and you need to replace them, you are $4,668 away from the full RB kit (calipers, rotors, pads, etc.). It's expensive, but not anything outrageous.

What remains to be seen is the clearance between RB caliper and an 18" wheel. If the clearance is only marginally better than the stock caliper, the upgrade won't make sense to anyone concerned about rocks getting jammed between the rim and the caliper and causing caliper and/or wheel failure.

Racingbrake
11-28-2016, 11:15 AM
Great price on the RB front brakes, im assuming rear kit is also on its way??

Yes, we will offer two options for the rear:

1. CCM rotors 380x34mm same disc as the front (Parking brake has to be disabled).
2. Iron rotors 355x32mm same as our balanced bias rear kit (parking brake retained)

Both kits provide the same brake balance as the newest 2016 OE CCB brakes, and they are a 100% bolt on installtion to your existing upright (spindle/hub) w/o requiring any modification.

Since the rear caliper is a 4 pot (6 pot front), so the rear CCM brake kit shall cost less than the front CCM kit at low $7K.

This is a truly affordable CCB brake kit, specifically designed and built for Viper owners who have been looking to upgrade their brakes to the latest brake technology, yet still retain stock spindles.

RB-CCB kits offer more advantage and flexibility than OE set up, more economic to own, run, and maintain. Same as we built for other motorsports communities that provide car enthusiasts an option outside OE (stock or retrofit) and aftermarket Brembo brand.

RB filled the gap for those OE (American Muscles, new or old models) that don't come CCB, for example we offered our kits for Challenge & Hellcat while Mustang is at work (to be released in about 4 weeks).

All our CCB kits are made for track duty, and we are a full service company including consultation, brake pads and other components selection and we look forward to serving your braking need.

ek1
11-28-2016, 09:53 PM
What led to a decision to use the same rotor on front and rear and eliminate the parking brake?

Racingbrake
11-29-2016, 10:04 AM
Cost and availability.

To keep the cost down (especially for your future rotor replacement), we use only Corvette ZR1 CCM discs and 380mm is the smallest available.

We can build the rear kit with ST rotors at 360mm to retain the parking brake, but you will be looking at $16,000 just for 4 rotors (see Moveit offers) and with uncertainty in leadtime & future supply).

At your leisure you may read these thread discussions in McLaren forum and learn why Mclaren MP4-12C owners wanting to convert their OE to Corvette ZR1.

premature ceramic rotor wear http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/mclaren-650s/36593-premature-ceramic-rotor-wear.html

Ceramic brakes http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/mclaren-675lt/56481-ceramic-brakes.html

Adapting parking brake to 380mm rear rotor will also add to the kit cost.

Racingbrake
12-01-2016, 07:55 PM
The kit is up for pre-order as we are tooling up & sourcing components, we are looking for a 4-6 weeks leadtime to deliver the kit*.

http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-CCB-System-for-Dodge-Dodge-Viper-P-N-2C44-2C-p/rccb-dod-02.htm

This is the lowest priced complete CCB brake kit in the industry; including RB 6 pot/4 pot track duty calipers, brake pads, brake lines etc. Kits are made for a 100% bolt on installation, not modification to OE upright (spindles) and fits 18" wheels which we will confirm later once we received the OE wheels from Chris.

The value of the kit is how we build the kit, the rotors are same as ZR1 CCM discs and we used standard FMSI brake pads in our calipers so your replacement cost on rotor and pad is kept under control. Although Viper CCB rotors are not as outrageous as Porsche/Ferrari/McLaren etc., but still with Corvette discs they can save you a lot of money down the road and they are cheap and can be purchase from GM dealers or online stores.

We offer 3 sets pre-order special valid until we start shipping order or on first come first serve basis. Interested party can PM or call us for detail and order placement.

This is the same CCB brake kits we have been producing for other car makes (Porsche, Ferrari, GTR, Camaro, McLaren, BMW etc.), so there is nothing to worry on the fitment, quality and performance because of pre-order.

We also offer a money back guarantee if you can find a cheaper kit, or you don't think your money worth the investment (in performance improvement or even the look).

*No reserve or holding back - We are committed to making the kit available w/o regard to pre-order response, but if you have been looking for the set up it's advantageous to purchase during pre-order, after they are in stock price may be adjusted to reflect to prevailing market pricing.

ek1
12-02-2016, 12:15 AM
Wow.....lots of good info in that Mclaren thread. A must read for anyone tracking their car, especially the last few pages.

Racingbrake
01-11-2017, 02:35 PM
Anyone is interested in this hassle free installation, low cost to own and run CCB brake kit. Anything you like or dislike?

Martin2000GTS
01-11-2017, 04:29 PM
I recently bought a used Mercedes with Carbon Ceramics and I honestly cant believe the performance. The brakes feel like they want to suck my eye balls out of my face. I cant wait for my ACR to come in ! It is tough to want to spend that kind of coin to upgrade brakes that are already damn good, but to each their own, if you can swing it more power to you, plus they look bad ass!

Back In Black
01-13-2017, 08:17 PM
Wow.....lots of good info in that Mclaren thread. A must read for anyone tracking their car, especially the last few pages.

This kit uses OE ZR1 rear rotors on the front and rear correct? Will OE pads work as well or are the pads exclusively available from RB?

Racingbrake
01-13-2017, 10:06 PM
The brake pads are a down size version of ZR1 (front and rear). Narrower in width and height and we have a local waterjet shop we used that can precisely perform this modification (trimmed the width and the bottom). They are not compatible with ACR CCB pads.

We purchase CCM rotors and pads in bulk from Detroit surplus, and local GM dealer and keep them in stock (usually around 12-20 sets) so supply is always available. Our the price is only fractional comparing to Dodge dealers. Here is a comment I made about brake pad consumption consideration in addition to CCM rotors.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/16739-CCM-brakes-to-Steel-possible?p=271876&viewfull=1#post271876

The beauty of this RB-CCB kit is once you purchase the kit your maintenance/replacement cost will be same as ZR1/Z28 owners - You can just buy replacement rotor from GM dealers or online retailer (could be better in price but not always available).

We also provide service on rotor replacement & caliper rebuild for those who are not comfortable in doing it themselves with a 24-48 hours turn around.

Also like to add is the rear parking brake, we previously stated the rear parking brake shall be disabled resulting from the rotor size change, but we have since working a solution to keep this parking brake function.

drviperdds
02-02-2017, 09:48 AM
The brake pads are a down size version of ZR1 (front and rear). Narrower in width and height and we have a local waterjet shop we used that can precisely perform this modification (trimmed the width and the bottom). They are not compatible with ACR CCB pads.

We purchase CCM rotors and pads in bulk from Detroit surplus, and local GM dealer and keep them in stock (usually around 12-20 sets) so supply is always available. Our the price is only fractional comparing to Dodge dealers. Here is a comment I made about brake pad consumption consideration in addition to CCM rotors.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/16739-CCM-brakes-to-Steel-possible?p=271876&viewfull=1#post271876

The beauty of this RB-CCB kit is once you purchase the kit your maintenance/replacement cost will be same as ZR1/Z28 owners - You can just buy replacement rotor from GM dealers or online retailer (could be better in price but not always available).

We also provide service on rotor replacement & caliper rebuild for those who are not comfortable in doing it themselves with a 24-48 hours turn around.

Also like to add is the rear parking brake, we previously stated the rear parking brake shall be disabled resulting from the rotor size change, but we have since working a solution to keep this parking brake function.

Any updates on this yet? Also, do you offer the calipers in yellow as well?

Racingbrake
02-03-2017, 10:12 AM
Update: Rotor hats and carbon discs from GM dealer are received, so they are being assembled pictures will be posted shortly.

Here are typical color option of our calipers.

http://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbworld.org-vbulletin/1920x1056/80-colorsized_b05f59f819df6a4f201c0c2b5a38efae03d776d f.jpg

Racingbrake
02-03-2017, 10:21 AM
Please note our standard colors are Red and Black, Blue and Yellow are not always available in every model/size.

Racingbrake
02-03-2017, 06:44 PM
Yes, it's happening. Here is the front CCM BBK for Viper G3/4/5 just assembled. This kit is also a good alternative for ACR owners with CCB for downsizing to 18" wheels for better clearance to wheel barrel.

1. 100% bolt on.
2. Front CCB kit w/RB 6 pot HD calipers and brake pad in one great and affordable price.
3. CCM discs are same as ZR1 - Very cheap to own/run/replace than ACR-E.
4. Back up by RB's knowledgeable and full after service in maintenance, upgrade, and replacement (disc, pad caliper rebuild etc.) for both street & track applications.

http://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbworld.org-vbulletin/640x480/80-img_0681_5c55684591de424238f0c95dbb5a8fda5767a48b. jpg

http://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbworld.org-vbulletin/640x480/80-img_0682_ad2f78fcfa45f32004f30cfd7e2d46fa8a92c2c6. jpg

http://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbworld.org-vbulletin/640x480/80-img_0683_59b65bac45b9c62f057cb850347d1eb10b032551. jpg

http://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbworld.org-vbulletin/640x480/80-img_0686_db90edd0a48dac6152f04f38528d6995b223bea3. jpg

Link to the kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/380mm-CCM-rotors-with-6-pot-caliper-kit-for-Dodge-p/2c44.htm

Wheel fitment template to download:
http://www.racingbrake.com/v/downloads/2C44fitment.pdf

drviperdds
02-03-2017, 11:03 PM
What about the parking brake issue? Will we be able to retain the function?

Lexusf
02-05-2017, 10:18 PM
What about the parking brake issue? Will we be able to retain the function?

Why don't they offer a 6 piston front with non ccm what ever rotors? My gtr stock brakes on my Viper would be great! Get my point? My gS-f has better brakes than my viper

parabs
02-05-2017, 10:21 PM
Why don't they offer a 6 piston front with non ccm what ever rotors? My gtr stock brakes on my Viper would be great! Get my point? My gS-f has better brakes than my viper

I think they offer a 6-pot caliper with iron options in 380mm and 390mm options. Check their website, they have a plethora of options.

Racingbrake
03-03-2017, 06:38 PM
Why don't they offer a 6 piston front with non ccm what ever rotors? My gtr stock brakes on my Viper would be great! Get my point? My gS-f has better brakes than my viper

This is our most popular 380/355mm, 6pot/4pot caliper kit combo ever offered for Viper.

Iron brake kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DOD-IRP-03

CCM front and iron rear kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RCCB-DOD-03

Both front and rear rotors are completely interchangeable, in other words you can swap between (CCM<-->Iron) anytime w/o having to swap the caliper. The caliper use the same shape of brake pad you just have to install the proper compound for your intended purpose. But for street driving our XT910 (included in the kit) can deal with both kind of rotors w/o any issue.

Pure, simple, and work is what RB brake kits are known of.

KB Viper
03-03-2017, 07:58 PM
how much extra would it cost to adapt the parking brake to work with the 380 rear CCB rotor?

Racingbrake
03-07-2017, 04:43 PM
It will cost about $850 more for a new e-brake to accommodate 380mm bigger rotor which is still under development with a long leadtime. On top of the extra cost, installation would definitely be more challenging than just stock size swap, plus the new parking brake system will deviate from OE set up for maintenance and replacement etc.

We recommend keep your factory iron rotor in the rear (or upgrade to our balanced rear kit), it essentially will be very similar to Mercedes's C63 S with standard brake 390x36 front/360x26mm rear iron rotors, but you can upgrade the front to CCB (400x38mm)w/6pot Gold caliper, while the rear remain as 1pc iron rotor @360x26mm with floating calipers.

Here is the link to purchase a complete CCB front axle kit.

http://www.racingbrake.com/380mm-CCM-rotors-with-6-pot-caliper-kit-for-Dodge-p/2c44.htm

Keep your stock rear, or upgrade to RB's balanced iron kit w/4-pot calipers - Retain OE parking brake.

http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Rear-Aluminum-Caliper-and-Iron-Rotors-for-Dodge-p/2546.htm

Purchase the complete combo kit and save even more...
http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-CCB-Iron-System-for-Dodge-Viper-P-N-2C44-254-p/rccb-dod-03.htm

Both the front and rear OE size iron kits are designed and built for a 100% bolt on & DIY installation.

Kits are in stock.

ps. As a comparison this special RB combo kit will upgrade your stock brake from 355x32/355x32 iron rotors to 380x34 CCB /355x32 Iron vs. the new ACR-E with 390x34/360x32 both CCB.