TARGA option Is anyone interested

[GerryWoodViper]

2076720768207692077020771I have been in touch with PREFIX to see if they can do any more Targa conversions. My plan was to do one or two. Their reply;

The Targa has been discontinued do to the shortage of some parts from Mopar. Brad, were you looking to have just one of your Vipers on order converted into the Targa? We have been receiving numerous inquiries on the Targa lately and maybe with enough solid customers like Gerry Wood Chrysler we could do a business case to support the investment in reproducing these Viper door seals needed for the Targa’s production to resume.

I will talk more with the Prefix management but I would think if we had between 5 and 10 more Vipers to convert with the list of interested customer we already have this Targa program could be reinstate. I will keep you informed on our progress.

I am trying to get a feel for any sold interest (willing to send deposits to them) in this conversion from members. I have no idea how many it will take, but I'd be willing to do as many as 5 cars to make it work.

Please post replies here for any thoughts from all members as to feedback to the Targa option in general or individuals with serious interest.

~ Brad Wood

[ACRucrazy]

I was seriously considering it at the original advertised price of $10k. I have heard (no idea if there is truth to it) that it may have increased to 17-20K.

I know of 2 other locals all interested in Targa at 10k... We have Gen Vs on order for completion estimate of next spring or later. At an increased price I can say we are out.

http://driveviper.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10785&d=1457656563

[donk_316]

I would seriously consider it also. I wanted it badly at time of order (aug 2015) and never heard back from Prefix.
Let me know the price and what has to happen to pull the trigger on this.

[Mbccenter]

Maybe. Would like to know how the wind is with the top off? Big difference between a RT-10 and SRT-10

[bkrone]

What he said :) At $10k I'm fairly tempted.


I was seriously considering it at the original advertised price of $10k. I have heard (no idea if there is truth to it) that it may have increased to 17-20K.

I know of 2 other locals all interested in Targa at 10k... We have Gen Vs on order for completion estimate of next spring or later. At an increased price I can say we are out.

http://driveviper.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10785&d=1457656563

[01sapphirebob]

Maybe. Would like to know how the wind is with the top off? Big difference between a RT-10 and SRT-10

I was lucky enough to ride in the targa prototype a couple years ago. The wind noise with the top off is barely noticable. Theres no rattle in the top when its on and its super simple to take on and off.

[texasram]

Or in other words, the corvette special

[BJG32]

I have that money earmarked for my eventual spun bearing /engine rebuild. :rolleyes:

[commandomatt]

I was seriously considering it at the original advertised price of $10k. I have heard (no idea if there is truth to it) that it may have increased to 17-20K.

I know of 2 other locals all interested in Targa at 10k... We have Gen Vs on order for completion estimate of next spring or later. At an increased price I can say we are out.



Are you not getting an ACRE ?

I don't think it's allowed to cut the roof of of one of those :)

[apeas2]

I would strongly consider it for 10K as well.

[ACRucrazy]

Are you not getting an ACRE ?

I don't think it's allowed to cut the roof of of one of those :)

All of us are and a few wanting targa lol

[J TNT]

Great option for those who want to go Topless ! :)
As Carol Shelby once said " Coupes are for chickens.......lol ! " :witless:

[texasram]

I have that money earmarked for my eventual spun bearing /engine rebuild. :rolleyes:

you're planning for a rebuild on an already replaced motor? im scared now

[BJG32]

you're planning for a rebuild on an already replaced motor? im scared now

More of a joke, but you never know.

Modifying the car in anyway completely voids your warranty......right? That's the point many on here have argued. FCA could say a cut roof created more drag and was hard on the engine. Maybe this is far fetched.....but I certainly wouldn't give FCA a reason to f*** me with all that is going on.

With this mod your door and window regulator warranty is toast. Regulators are known to fail, but FCA will blame the targa. I bet they'd even use the targa as a reason not to cover rear glass when it explodes...."all that vibration from the cutting nearby must have caused the issue".

[Mbccenter]

If the body is not started or painted yet at Prefix wonder if it would be cheaper?

[GerryWoodViper]

Guys, I just got off the phone with PREFIX.

I am 100% Committed to doing 5 of our incoming cars. They need 12 more people with paid deposits to go forward. The key is the costs of getting the gaskets made, I'm told. I'm doing the best I can to support this. I'm very sure that as it has already been discontinued that in future in order to ramp it back up another 17 people (minimum) would be required.

They have confirmed that the price is $9,995.00. This is a seriously good deal IMO, and I'm voting with my wallet.

While I'm not collecting deposits or in any way involved in this sale, if you're 100% committed to buying this for your car (in your garage on in production) please email me at brad@gerrywoodauto.com. I had originally wanted two for me and one for a client, but I'll do the extra as that's what's required to get this going.

Here is what I've selected;

GTS, Hyper Black wheels, Adrenaline Red. MSRP $114,190.00
GTS, Sidewinder II Matte, GTS Racing stripes - black, Gunmetal Pearl. MSRP $120,790.00
GTS, Venom Black, MSRP $113,090.00
GTC, Harman, GTS Racing Striped Gunmental, SRT Hood, Demonic Red seat belts, T/A1.0, GTS Laguna Interior - Demoic Red, Carbon interior accents, Satin Black Exterior accents, carbon x-brace. MSRP $133,635.00
GTC, Snakeskin Edition (Non ACR)

~ Brad Wood

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If the body is not started or painted yet at Prefix wonder if it would be cheaper?

I have been told with no uncertainty that they cannot do the conversion at the factory, or prior to the car being finalized. The car must leave the factory first.

[Mbccenter]

I am sure it does change the safety rating so can not be part of Dodge.

[Coloviper]

Brad;

If the only holdback and concern is a weather-strip item, then bump the price slightly to then make it so that everyone that buys the targa option must also buy a replacement weatherstrip. Hell if I had that option and there was no way of replacing the weatherstrip if someone in high heels tears it, that kind of sucks. Double up on the weatherstrip for new and then Jerry Wood buy some more weather strips for those out there that have the targa already. Can't see why they need another 12 cars if the only holdback is the weatherstrip item. There will need to be spares anyway.

[GerryWoodViper]

Brad;

If the only holdback and concern is a weather-strip item, then bump the price slightly to then make it so that everyone that buys the targa option must also buy a replacement weatherstrip. Hell if I had that option and there was no way of replacing the weatherstrip if someone in high heels tears it, that kind of sucks. Double up on the weatherstrip for new and then Jerry Wood buy some more weather strips for those out there that have the targa already. Can't see why they need another 12 cars if the only holdback is the weatherstrip item. There will need to be spares anyway.

I am 100% on that, so great idea. I'll order a couple extra for parts stock. However, that doesn't make sense now that we talk about it that way.... I'll investigate further. Perhaps we can negotiate a second set for each buyer - just in case.

[99RT10]

This is on of the best mods for the Gen 5 and looks factory. I will be getting a Gen 5 soon, but not sure if I want to do it to an ACR.

[J TNT]

I am 100% on that, so great idea. I'll order a couple extra for parts stock. However, that doesn't make sense now that we talk about it that way.... I'll investigate further. Perhaps we can negotiate a second set for each buyer - just in case.

Brad are these weatherstrips the same as Gen 3 and Gen 4 Convertibles ?
If so more may be interested in purchasing the weatherstrips to have as spares , and help out the Targa option !

[GerryWoodViper]

Gerry are these weatherstrips the same as Gen 3 and Gen 4 Convertibles ?
If so more may be interested in purchasing the weatherstrips to have as spares , and help out the Targa option !

I'm not sure if they are. I doubt they would be though. I'll ask Todd when I speak with him next. He has said he'll be back with me by the end of the week on whether this can all come together.

Brad Wood

[GerryWoodViper]

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[01sapphirebob]

Brad are these weatherstrips the same as Gen 3 and Gen 4 Convertibles ?
If so more may be interested in purchasing the weatherstrips to have as spares , and help out the Targa option !

I believe the weather strippimg in question in the one on the rear bulkhead. Not at the header.

[Dman]

The more Brad posts, the more I like him.

If I were ordering one, I'd only do it with an extra set of weather stripping, God forbid you have no spare forever.

I'm not being a smart ass here, I promise, but curious, what impact would this have on the warranty? Can you get FCA to officially state that the Prefix Targa mod won't void any warranty items? I mean, one has to ask the question.

I was saving for a Targa as a winter project, then decided to sell to get a '17, then derailed by this engine drama junk. If I knew the '17 engines were cured of prior year debris/oil burning, I'd be very, very tempted to consider a Targa, so awesome, and your listings look intriguing, although I've felt a TA Targa would be amaze balls.

[MK2_Viper]

Very interested .

[Exhlr8n]

Is this available for ACR-E's? Or are there a structural issues?

[FLATOUT]

Is this available for ACR-E's? Or are there a structural issues?

We did 3 or 4 at ViperExchange when they first came out including an ACR, so yes they can be done. They took months (6 in one case) to complete. Ended up being a huge issue with the customers.

[bkrone]

We did 3 or 4 at ViperExchange when they first came out including an ACR, so yes they can be done. They took months (6 in one case) to complete. Ended up being a huge issue with the customers.

Huge issue just due to the length it took? Or huge issues with time + results?

[GerryWoodViper]

The more Brad posts, the more I like him.

If I were ordering one, I'd only do it with an extra set of weather stripping, God forbid you have no spare forever.

I'm not being a smart ass here, I promise, but curious, what impact would this have on the warranty? Can you get FCA to officially state that the Prefix Targa mod won't void any warranty items? I mean, one has to ask the question.

I was saving for a Targa as a winter project, then decided to sell to get a '17, then derailed by this engine drama junk. If I knew the '17 engines were cured of prior year debris/oil burning, I'd be very, very tempted to consider a Targa, so awesome, and your listings look intriguing, although I've felt a TA Targa would be amaze balls.

I am getting the full warranty details directly from PREFIX today, and I will post them on this thread.

The T/A1.0 conversion is for a client, and we are very excited about it. I have a friend with a stacked GTS on order in Custom Color who is on the fence. Hopefully he'll pull the trigger also.

I think the Snakeskin non-ACR is a killer car in Targa.

I have received two "I'm 100% committed" emails personally from this post and I have sent those individuals' contact information to PREFIX. They'll take it from here.

I will say this, once they do the run it's likely that it'll go away again. As with the Viper situation in general - action is needed.

~ Brad

[MK2_Viper]

Here is a video for anyone that has not seen it .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVXOU3n8kA

[ViperSRT]

Not sure, but wonder what if you have 1 of 1 paint and stripes. Included in the price?

[Cgav8t0r]

Can you elaborate here Andy?

[The_Ruski_Driver]

I would love one, it really sucks I don't have the spare 10k for this. Damn it....

[prpaster]

I have to say what a bunch of pricks considering they just charged me 17k for a conversion like 3-4 months ago lol . It was worth it tho! i would jump on this for sure . If anyone wants any pics just let me know i can go take some

[ACRucrazy]

I have to say what a bunch of pricks considering they just charged me 17k for a conversion like 3-4 months ago lol . It was worth it tho! i would jump on this for sure . If anyone wants any pics just let me know i can go take some

Didn't you have some upgrades though? Post as many pics as you like! The more the better! Be nice to see pics since I don't know of any locals with one.

[FLATOUT]

Can you elaborate here Andy?

Yes, time/communication etc.

[FLATOUT]

Any idea how much it effects performance off and on - are there are mods you did back then to keep it rigid wouldn't mind a roll bar.

Just saw the video - I'm in if roll bar can be added.

Car was sent overseas so little to no feedback. Looked great though. I personally wouldn't do it to a track car but cool for a cruiser/cars and coffee car.

[prpaster]

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[prpaster]

Didn't you have some upgrades though? Post as many pics as you like! The more the better! Be nice to see pics since I don't know of any locals with one.

17k was the start then plus the upgrades...

[esm_viper]

Here is a very cool video for anyone that has not seen it .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVXOU3n8kA

I think that car was at VE when I picked mine up. Might be hard to tell from the picture but if I remember correctly it was a Targa done foe someone at Prefix.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i177/eric_mccloskey/Mobile%20Uploads/20161027_202938_zps8hofnjlg.jpg

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[GerryWoodViper]

Well crew, I am disappointed to say that I received the following email this evening regarding the attempted resurrection of the Targa. I had high hopes initially, but it's not meant to be. My apologies for the excitement and no results.


Good Afternoon Brad,
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Prefix Corporation appreciates your interest and generous offer to purchase 5 Targa’s to help seed the restart of this Targa program. Management has been going over the numbers and with the extremely high costs to reproduce the needed seals and with those funds having to be amortized over so many vehicles the per unit cost would be so high we could only find the smallest number of customers for these Targa’s. I am so sorry to lead you astray with the possibility of the Targa relaunch but the Prefix team has even looked into several redesign concepts to lower the overall price without any luck. To give you an idea how high these numbers have risen the $9,995.00 Targa conversion is hovering around $30,000.00!
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Very Best Regards
*
Todd *
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Todd Claucherty
Estimating and Sales
Prefix Arrow Racing, LLC.
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[FLATOUT]

Looks great.

[prpaster]

When they were telling me no i told them i would find the seals for them . The part number they were having issues with during mine was 04865561AG. I am work for a defense company so I have access to many suppliers that we use that do low volume parts but they wouldnt take me up on the offer as they said they found a few. It still stands tho if anyone wants to take the time to figure out what seal it is just really need a cross section, material and should be able to get something drawn up pretty quick.

[Terminator02]

Well crew, I am disappointed to say that I received the following email this evening regarding the attempted resurrection of the Targa. I had high hopes initially, but it's not meant to be. My apologies for the excitement and no results.


Good Afternoon Brad,
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Prefix Corporation appreciates your interest and generous offer to purchase 5 Targa’s to help seed the restart of this Targa program. Management has been going over the numbers and with the extremely high costs to reproduce the needed seals and with those funds having to be amortized over so many vehicles the per unit cost would be so high we could only find the smallest number of customers for these Targa’s. I am so sorry to lead you astray with the possibility of the Targa relaunch but the Prefix team has even looked into several redesign concepts to lower the overall price without any luck. To give you an idea how high these numbers have risen the $9,995.00 Targa conversion is hovering around $30,000.00!
*
Very Best Regards
*
Todd *
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Todd Claucherty
Estimating and Sales
Prefix Arrow Racing, LLC.
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I was gonna say that for anyone interested that price was a no brainer. Too bad.

[ACRucrazy]

30k.....


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[ACRucrazy]

Naaa... I just saved myself $10,000

[MK2_Viper]

If they did one for 17k ...

Think it's worth pursuing and see if prefix will make a sliding scale.

I agree , Brad can we find that out ?

[Voice of Reason]

What kind of rubber seals take the price of anything on a car from 17k to 30k!?!? Are they made with real baby seals?

[DZnutz]

This is a clear example of a manufacturer realizing that it costs way more time and effort than its worth. So they have simply dropped the whole idea. I feel sorry for all those targas out there as they have absolutely no support now

[edc]

What kind of rubber seals take the price of anything on a car from 17k to 30k!?!? Are they made with real baby seals?

Only the fresh virgin blubber of a 7 month old clubbed seal can be used. Any younger or any older just won't meet the requirements. Seal must be clubbed to help tenderize.

[Terminator02]

So far prefix has been really great to their customers so let's give some benefit of the doubt as I really hope they don't do the bait and switch on their customers down the road (offer great up front service to then turn into the corporate machine when it establishes base). Their reply was a bit corporate but I think overall they are really helping their customers and potential customers and have actively said they are looking for more business. With viper production ending the will rely on a lot of service requests and still think they can offer some tremendous service and painting options. Fingers crossed.

[Dman]

Wow, I guess ACRucrazy had heard right, that's some seriously expensive rubber. Imagine being a targa owner and your stripping gets muffed up, now what?

Thanks for trying, Brad. Impressed you went for it, you really seem to talk the talk and walk the walk.

[The_Ruski_Driver]

Guys that got for 17k got a steal I suppose!

[GerryWoodViper]

I agree , Brad can we find that out ?

I have replied late last night with the following;

"Ok, while I'm not interested I suspect feedback is that at $30k some people are. How many orders do you need at $30k each to make it happen?"

He said he'd ask.......

For the record, while not thrilled about it (another gamble!) I'd do the 5 at $15,000.00 for stock if it had enough support. I'm not prepared to go solo on this though.

In addition, I'd like to see the underside of the top finished out perfectly.

[Terminator02]

I have replied late last night with the following;

"Ok, while I'm not interested I suspect feedback is that at $30k some people are. How many orders do you need at $30k each to make it happen?"

He said he'd ask.......

For the record, while not thrilled about it (another gamble!) I'd do the 5 at $15,000.00 for stock if it had enough support. I'm not prepared to go solo on this though.

In addition, I'd like to see the underside of the top finished out perfectly.

I haven't had much coffee but are you potentially taking them up on the 30k and offering them for 15k to give customers? If so...my man.

[Coloviper]

Sorry but a blind man on a galloping horse could see that when they throw a $30k price out on something like this, which they use to charge $10k for, they just don't want to do it anymore and if you make them do it, they want such a ridiculous high profit, it offshoots their extreme desire to not do it anyway. Sorry but even with Viper tax X 2 , no rubber in the world costs that much. With companies 3D printing everything from buildings to this or that, it is highway robbery. Love the option, 3/4 way love the final look but at those costs, it is not a real option to anyone. Just read between the lines on the corporate response.

What does a Medusa conversion cost, $90k now? Brad, if you think about it, sell a new GEN V to a customer and if that customer wants to also have an open air experience, then for $30k give them a whole used GEN 1 Viper. In reality, that is how ridiculous a $30k Targa price is.

[GerryWoodViper]

I haven't had much coffee but are you potentially taking them up on the 30k and offering them for 15k to give customers? If so...my man.

You need more coffee indeed.

I am not interested at $30k. I am marginally interested at $15k, for the benefit of getting some for us as well as for those interested outside of our market. I was really interested at $10k
I have resurrected the conversation, it's in the hands of the marketplace as to where it goes from here.
That, in fact, is what's been going on the whole time for those in the marketplace and those who are watching with the Viper. It takes votes with wallets to move a market, not conversation about voting with wallets.
I never had a "piece of it" as stated very clearly here. I simply sent the interested parties information to them for them to do what they wanted with it.

As I stated to Alex who communicated with me. In our business the reply of "$30,000" is what we call a "Left Handed Turndown" (no offense to overly sensitive left handed people who own Vipers). Make the cost high enough so no one bothers you with it any longer.

I sent the conversation back to PREFIX at $30k because I had two people say they would do it at that figure - write checks. They voted. I'm not interested, but far be it from me not to help them.

[donk_316]

Maybe ask them how many cars it will take to get to the $10k price point.
Seems their putting a $150,000 price tag on the targa program if they want $30k for 5 cars.

So all we need is 15 people to put deposit down to get back to $10k

[GerryWoodViper]

They were at 17 for $10,000.00 in initial conversation, but then went to $30k....... They don't want to do it is my interpretation.

[GerryWoodViper]

Just got a call from Steve with AutoForm. We spent about 15 minutes discussing this Targa solution and seeing what might work. He knows the price point to make it work for the market is right at $10,000.00.

Does anyone have any comments or feedback on this option?

Brad

[donk_316]

Thanks for keeping this alive brad. I officially like you.

[ACRucrazy]

I am not interested in cutting the roof off my car by any company other than the company that has partnered with the plant and painted these cars. Nothing against Steve or Autoform, I just don't see the return on it down the road. The Prefix option could have some return on $$ spent.

Back to Prefix I am not interested at a $1 over $10k. The only reason I can think that they were previously able to do them for $10,000 and now need $30,000 is possibly Dodge/SRT was kicking in something to help promote sales. Now that sales are over... I don't know, just thinking out loud I don't get how Prefix can announce this for $10,000 just 1 year ago now need $30 to do the same work. Either way I was over it a few months ago when I tried getting answers. I am easily over it again. :)

[Viper Girl]

If Steve @ autoform can do it, that seems like a perfect option to me. Once the Viper is gone and CAAP is closed, I'd imagine that Prefix isn't going to be doing Viper anything in the future...

Autoform on the other hand will be around for support and future parts. Where buying from Prefix, might be a dead end road.

[Terminator02]

If Steve @ autoform can do it, that seems like a perfect option to me. Once the Viper is gone and CAAP is closed, I'd imagine that Prefix isn't going to be doing Viper anything in the future...

Autoform on the other hand will be around for support and future parts. Where buying from Prefix, might be a dead end road.

That's what surprises me by prefix response. They say they want Viper business and they are merging with arrow but not taking a large order seems apathetic. Auto form is awesome. They always support the Viper and work out some really creative solutions. A really nice guy associated with auoform helped me pin the harmonic balancer to my crank and replace some parts when I thought my gen ll acr was toast. Either way, solutions are out there.

10k is very reasonable for this mod as we have a member who spent 17k plus more for add on with prefix. Those saying it's not worth a penny more doesn't make sense. What really doesn't make sense is prefix denying the ability to work on 17 vipers and continue to build business. That's a missed opportunity and a sign they aren't as serious about Viper business as I may have thought.

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If Steve @ autoform can do it, that seems like a perfect option to me. Once the Viper is gone and CAAP is closed, I'd imagine that Prefix isn't going to be doing Viper anything in the future...

Autoform on the other hand will be around for support and future parts. Where buying from Prefix, might be a dead end road.

That's what surprises me by prefix response. They say they want Viper business and they are merging with arrow but not taking a large order seems apathetic. Auto form is awesome. They always support the Viper and work out some really creative solutions. A really nice guy associated with auoform helped me pin the harmonic balancer to my crank and replace some parts when I thought my gen ll acr was toast. Either way, solutions are out there.

10k is very reasonable for this mod as we have a member who spent 17k plus more for add on with prefix. Those saying it's not worth a penny more doesn't make sense. What really doesn't make sense is prefix denying the ability to work on 17 vipers and continue to build business. That's a missed opportunity and a sign they aren't as serious about Viper business as I may have thought.

[Vprbite]

I've never seen autoform do anything halfway or shitty or with poor finish. Im sure if he does the targa it will be great.

I honestly always thought the 10k was a killer price for the targa conversion cause it's tricker than just breaking out the sawzall. 30 is just just not gonna happen though. I could see a snowball effect as more people get the targa, more will want it. Perhaps if people give prefix a 1k deposit it could show good faith enough to bring that cost down so that they get the parts built that are needed.

[Terminator02]

10k seems like a ridiculously killer deal but 15k seems like a fair group buy all out the door. 30k is a waste of typing. Steve at 10k I'd trust all day. As stated above, they never put out bad work. They bleed viper passion.

[Voice of Reason]

Prefix/Arrow has moved on past the Viper and aside from fulfilling painting 2017 Vipers that they are contractually obligated to do they want nothing to do with us. A 30k quote speaks volumes and all you need to see here. One has to honestly wonder what their future looks like, it's not like Dodge needs $10k paint jobs on its Darts.

But I've met Steve and seen his facilities at AutoForm. If he says he's willing to take it on I'm confident it will be with quality. This is worth persuing.

[NT-ACR]

30k.....


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This is sensational.

[MK2_Viper]

Just got a call from Steve with AutoForm. We spent about 15 minutes discussing this Targa solution and seeing what might work. He knows the price point to make it work for the market is right at $10,000.00.

Does anyone have any comments or feedback on this option?

Brad

I'm 100% in at a higher price , 10k was ridiculous , so more is still fair.

[Mag-Yum]

Just stumbled across this thread after being away from VOA for quite a bit. Was surprised to see it. I am/ was officially the LAST targa at the 10k but that was not to be. Have emails from prefix ( John Coe ) stating as much, however I could never get them to take my car in for the mod and then never get a response back from them. Apparently that was BS because I just saw someone got it for the discussed price of 17k that was to be the NEW price after mine was done. Wonder if he got the "used seal" they were offering me, that kinda made me not so thrilled. Anyhow, quite pissed off at how it was handled from my perspective. Started looking for a rag-top alternate ride to fill this new need they created in me with that mod ( lol ) and think I found one, albeit slightly ugly ( R8 V10 Spyder ) but if this can actually be done by someone else, I'm still interested. I'll be watching this thread to see where it ends up.

[AutoformSteve]

It looks like if it is going to happen...I will be on my own to do it. I have a deal in place with a G5 owner who agrees to let a stranger cut up his car.
A project like this does seem to make sense for Autoform...we have been putting tops ON Vipers since 1993...how hard could it be to cut them off...(sarcasm)
I am going to take a little different approach to the design and engineering of the Autoform Targa...based on my real world experience with our tops and seals.
I plan to start on this after the first of the year...I will update when I can, both here and on our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/AFR-AutoFormRacing/358398930877803
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[J TNT]

Thanks Steve for stepping up on the Targa option !!!
Any thoughts to making it a 2 piece for easier storage and more cargo space ?

[Topplayer]

I would consider this if it looks the part! Nothing like a top down roaster!!!!!

[NT-ACR]

I would consider this if it looks the part! Nothing like a top down roaster!!!!!

You do realize there's a difference between a "targa" and "roadster". Right?

[NT-ACR]

So, does interest in this modification prove Chevy wasn't crazy for making the Z06 a targa, let alone offering it as a convertible?

[ACRucrazy]

So, does interest in this modification prove Chevy wasn't crazy for making the Z06 a targa, let alone offering it as a convertible?

No, it just proves the Viper would have sold more Gen Vs if they followed through with a convertible option like was mentioned back in 2012. The V was built as a coupe first, but structurally ready to be a roadster IIRC.

[J TNT]

No, it just proves the Viper would have sold more Gen Vs if they followed through with a convertible option like was mentioned back in 2012. The V was built as a coupe first, but structurally ready to be a roadster IIRC.

Yep it was in the original plans to be a convertible as well , but was not carried through ??? If the convertible was produced , it would have given Viper an exemption to be produced into 2020 / 2022 . It's ironic this forward thinking wasn't employed . :(

[NT-ACR]

Yep it was in the original plans to be a convertible as well , but was not carried through ??? If the convertible was produced , it would have given Viper an exemption to be produced into 2020 / 2022 . It's ironic this forward thinking wasn't employed . :(

We'd still be in the same mess we currently are. Viper sales would be slow until the very end. Then, when everyone realizes the car really isn't coming back this time, they would be pissed that they can't order one and take to the boards to complain how it's unfair.

[J TNT]

We'd still be in the same mess we currently are. Viper sales would be slow until the very end. Then, when everyone realizes the car really isn't coming back this time, they would be pissed that they can't order one and take to the boards to complain how it's unfair.

Not necessarily , typically verts make up 60% of sales based on past production numbers .Seems like a lost opportunity to more than double sales . And I fall into that group that would gladly move up , if the option was there . If my car was totaled I would go out and find another vert . Maybe the 2025 Viper will have the Roadster option....lol !

[AutoformSteve]

Thanks Steve for stepping up on the Targa option !!!
Any thoughts to making it a 2 piece for easier storage and more cargo space ?
I would say yes on a 2 piece...I think provision/option for one of our G5 roll bars as well.
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[DZnutz]

so clearly youve already performed a convertible conversion on the genV?

[J TNT]

I would say yes on a 2 piece...I think provision/option for one of our G5 roll bars as well.
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NICE Roll Bar Steve ! And glad to hear you're doing a 2 piece Targa ! Looking forward to your final product ! :)