North Carolina Dealer buys the last of the GTCs amp ACRs all Viper ordering is closed

[Mark1107]

http://salisburypost.com/2016/09/25/gerry-wood-dealership-orders-135-dodge-vipers-2017-last-year-for-the-iconic-model/

They made what they call their own special editions?

Canada orders closed?

[dadeuce]

I think they are full of it. All those 2017 cars have VIN numbers. They probably just went on the 1 of 1 configuration site and made a bunch of cars the "could" order for someone. The VIN numbers aren't even valid VIN numbers.

[Mark1107]

Uhh that's not what people on the ground in the us and Canada are reporting....orders are closed.

[dadeuce]

Yeah, I've seen that. That's why I put could in quotes. The dealer probably threw a bunch of stuff on their website and doesn't even know they can't order them.

[donk_316]

Remember when the G4 ended and everyone rushed to stock up?

Then the G5 came out and there were G4 still on the show room floor?

I looked at a 1 of 9 2009 Canada Edition still at a dealer in 2013....

[mblgjr]

I saw that NC dealer had ordered a stack and marked them as "available".

Will be interesting to see how many actually get built.

[ViperJon]

I'm not buying it....at least in that volume. I just don't see there being such a sudden demand that people will be paying big bucks for some random hoopty colors. Time will tell I guess. I remember how long it took Tomball to get rid of their oddball Gen IV ACR's and at the time they were the end of the Viper too. At 20K off.

[Policy Limits]

Unless & until FCA announces this or ratifies it, I'm not buying it either. They, the factory, have only announced 6 special edition cars. So while orders are closed, it doesn't necessarily mean these are officially special editions

[ViperTony]

I saw that NC dealer had ordered a stack and marked them as "available".

Will be interesting to see how many actually get built.

Hmm...so an obscure dealer is about to order 160+ ACRs? I don't buy it. Wasn't the allocation actually based on sales to avoid the dealer fiasco with the GenIV final editions? This NC dealer has been selling more than VE and Woodhouse and has earned this large allocation? Don't think so.

[ACRucrazy]

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/popcorn_jon_stewart.gif

[Policy Limits]

His Web site is pretty cool actually. Lots of viper videos, inventory and information. I still say the red white & blue dealer edition ones from Tomball/Roanoke will be the most epic.

[Purple Haze]

As I said before my friend spent an hour with the plant manager just last week and plant manager said orders will close very soon, a week or so. Hearing two stories from dealers and friends, they closed orders Friday and they are still open for a couple days...Anyway that is soon!

[Martin]

Anyone who has a sold-order in the system and confirmation from the Concierge that they have an "official order" in the system needs to send a question to their concierge about this. If any orders are going to get cancelled, it should be the non-sold orders. It would be complete BS if any of us had our orders cancelled because some previously unknown dealer gamed the system.

[uberpube]

Anyone who has a sold-order in the system and confirmation from the Concierge that they have an "official order" in the system needs to send a question to their concierge about this. If any orders are going to get cancelled, it should be the non-sold orders. It would be complete BS if any of us had our orders cancelled because some previously unknown dealer gamed the system.
Some of us have VIN's and have had no contact from the concierge.

[canadian viper]

Some of us have VIN's and have had no contact from the concierge.

is that order a special edition car you are talking about?

[Martin]

Some of us have VIN's and have had no contact from the concierge.

I'm pretty sure that if you have a VIN, you'll have your car. Once that VIN is assigned, it's virtually guaranteed that it's going to get built. It's the ones that still only have a VON that should be worried.

[canadian viper]

Anyone who has a sold-order in the system and confirmation from the Concierge that they have an "official order" in the system needs to send a question to their concierge about this. If any orders are going to get cancelled, it should be the non-sold orders. It would be complete BS if any of us had our orders cancelled because some previously unknown dealer gamed the system.

i have 2 one of one acrs on order and approved from the concierge for over 2 months and still have no vins. here in canada the ordering has closed for 3 months. i am loosing hope each day now after hearing about that dealer if it is ture.

[Martin]

i have 2 one of one acrs on order and approved from the concierge for over 2 months and still have no vins. here in canada the ordering has closed for 3 months. i am loosing hope each day now after hearing about that dealer if it is ture.

Hopefully there is still some hope. When I look at the concierge portal, I see plenty of wording that appears to be a promise to deliver. It's an "official order" and the way they word things, it sure does look like the property is already promised to be "yours".

"Hi Martin, Congratulations on your new Dodge Viper GTC, and welcome to the Viper 1 of 1 family! This site will be your exciting behind the scenes look into your custom Viper being built from start to finish. Each time there is a new entry, you will receive an email letting you know that updates about the production of your Viper are available. You can ask questions using the section at the bottom of this page, never having to leave this site to be in touch with us! Your new 1 of 1 Viper will be a hand-built American supercar, touched by our team of passionate and dedicated craftsmen. From the impeccable paint job it receives from Prefix to the precision-built V10 engine and hand-assembled parts at the Conner Avenue Assembly Plant (CAAP), your 1 of 1 Viper is truly unique. Stay tuned for exciting updates!"

[uberpube]

is that order a special edition car you are talking about?

Yes, was told to expect contact 4-6 weeks after order, I think it's 8 going on 9 now.

[canadian viper]

Yes, was told to expect contact 4-6 weeks after order, I think it's 8 going on 9 now.

i think the special editions were put through the one of one program here in canada. but it is just a reg order after that. we will not get up dates like a true one of one.

[Mbccenter]

I have talked to the owner of the dealer direct and it is true. Can put anyone in touch that wants to purchase. There are others avalible at other dealers also.

[dmann]

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/popcorn_jon_stewart.gif

lol

- - - Updated - - -

I talked with them as well. The sales guy said the builds could be changed at this time.

[stevezel]

Some of us have VIN's and have had no contact from the concierge.

Not sure how you can get a VIN without factory contact.
Cutoff is in effect

[Space Truckin]

I'm not buying it....I just don't see there being such a sudden demand that people will be paying big bucks for some random hoopty colors.

^^^This^^^ There are some really bizarro color/ stripe combinations on the website and not much about "factory specific options".

[Granger73]

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[Taximan1]

I have talked to Brad Wood in the past too, he is legit. I talked to him about ordering a TA2.0 about a year and a half ago.. Nice guy, upfront. And offered to order a car for me at a KILLER price. But opted to buy a 14 instead. Too impatient.

[mnc2886]

Maybe I'm not reading this right, but did this dealer just order 135 GTC's? And in addition that, they are going to number them themselves claiming "special edition?"

Isn't the point of a GTC for actual customers to design and not dealers? I read some of the options he described. He will be sitting on this stuff for a long time.


The final, extremely limited six-unit series “Black Stripe” edition is a black and gold color combination, an ACR Extreme Aero specified GTC, showing off each of SRT, GTS and ACR stripe options.

“While all six cars share the exact same black-and-gold colors, none is the same, as they feature the stripes in black and the transposed version of each of the cars,” the press release said. “This unique ‘Black Stripe’ edition is an original through and through and is an absolutely stunning series.”

That sounds terrible...I can't believe they are being allowed to do this, especially considering that it appears some paying customers wanting a GTC designed by them might not get to order one.

[ViperSmith]

Sounds like a guy that dumped $40,000 into mods on a civic and demands a premium for it and the mods.

[gatesy21]

I just talked to them to change colors/options of one of their special Gerry wood editions and was told they won't change them to color/options I want.

[ViperJon]

This is pretty damn funny everybody getting all worked up about some nobody dealer cornering the market on Vipers.
I mean you just can't put a price on an authentic "Gerry Woods" edition collectable. Take my money!

[mnc2886]

I think the other issue here is that on the surface, this seems like unfair treatment to dealers like Roanoke, Tomball, and Woodhouse who have championed the Viper and likely have sold ten-fold what Gerry Woods has. How did he get such a high priority on inventory? Watch this dweeb place market premiums on these cars and demand over MSRP. I can feel it coming.

[ViperTony]

This is pretty damn funny everybody getting all worked up about some nobody dealer cornering the market on Vipers.
I mean you just can't put a price on an authentic "Gerry Woods" edition collectable. Take my money!

This. It's comical if true.

[NetkoGTS]

I think the Gary Woods editions were a hit back with the 2007's.

[ClayR]

Maybe I'm not reading this right, but did this dealer just order 135 GTC's? And in addition that, they are going to number them themselves claiming "special edition?"

Isn't the point of a GTC for actual customers to design and not dealers? I read some of the options he described. He will be sitting on this stuff for a long time.



That sounds terrible...I can't believe they are being allowed to do this, especially considering that it appears some paying customers wanting a GTC designed by them might not get to order one.

GTC's, to my knowledge, were for customers to customize a car and not for dealers. I know the big Three abuse this as well and order GTC's for stock, but I was asked specifically if my car was a stock unit or for me personally as I am a dealer.

[swexlin]

Perhaps, the big three were all offered allocation, but they may have more business than they can handle now. So, they refused, and this other guy steps in? I have no idea how this works, but if it is allocation based on past sales, then this guy wouldn't even be in the running.

[ssmith71]

Maybe I'm not reading this right, but did this dealer just order 135 GTC's? And in addition that, they are going to number them themselves claiming "special edition?"

Isn't the point of a GTC for actual customers to design and not dealers? I read some of the options he described. He will be sitting on this stuff for a long time.



That sounds terrible...I can't believe they are being allowed to do this, especially considering that it appears some paying customers wanting a GTC designed by them might not get to order one.

...and Donald Trump pays his taxes

[Dman]

When the gen5 came out the most loyal loyalists who ordered early at full price were rewarded with getting their cars bumped behind generic orders from wannabe dealers. Dodge now is kicking current hard core owners in the nuts with these defective blocks for 3 years plus. Why would Dodge do anything special for the most loyal and valued dealers in the country? I'm sure Dodge was more than happy to take all those orders from a dealer placing all its bets on, for the first time in the history of the world, vipers being sold at or near their MSRP.

[mnc2886]

...and Donald Trump pays his taxes

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't follow the reference...

[Eugene Lee]

that's whom I bought my ACR-E from

[GerryWoodViper]

Sorry, but we just don't allow forum advertising posts from vendors that are not site sponsors.

[v10enomous]

Well this kills all the fun:smilielol:

[Mark1107]

Sorry, but we just don't allow forum advertising posts from vendors that are not site sponsors.


Thank you Brad! I appreciate your response and smart business acumen!

I almost bought my ACR E from you but found a better deal. If you get any of the special editions in then i maybe in the market again for another viper! I was the one who posted this originally on both forums.

Mark

[Mark1107]

20315

Its gaining steam!

[GerryWoodViper]

Thanks Mark. Enjoy that car!

[Mark1107]

Thanks Mark. Enjoy that car!



You will be getting a call from me to discuss further!

Im addicted.

[drivingdutchman]

Sorry, but we just don't allow forum advertising posts from vendors that are not site sponsors.


I'd rather have purchased my own specific 1 of 1 car that I was working through my LOCAL dealer than be forced to now switch that to buy some sort of "special edition" that you guys have concocted. GTC orders were supposed to be for sold orders only, not stock cars. It's a damn shame FCA didn't follow their own rules and decided to let you guys buy the remaining inventory. We shall see what happens over the next few days, but if ACR E orders are actually closed they will have lost an order from a true enthusiast who was tremendously looking forward to his custom car. A shame for the Viper to go out this way...capitalism or not.

[ViperJon]

Looks like Dodge sorta kinda bent their own "rules" so a dealer can order and stock non sold GTC's.
This is going to be fascinating to watch when the "custom car" inventory starts coming in.

[GerryWoodViper]

I'd rather have purchased my own specific 1 of 1 car that I was working through my LOCAL dealer than be forced to now switch that to buy some sort of "special edition" that you guys have concocted. GTC orders were supposed to be for sold orders only, not stock cars. It's a damn shame FCA didn't follow their own rules and decided to let you guys buy the remaining inventory. We shall see what happens over the next few days, but if ACR E orders are actually closed they will have lost an order from a true enthusiast who was tremendously looking forward to his custom car. A shame for the Viper to go out this way...capitalism or not.

This was a concern of mine also. The Concierge told me they have been stressing to dealers and to shoppers that the Viper was on it's last year of production and that they would sell out. Many sat on the fence, not concerned. The fact is that this activity caused production not to be met in the time needed. The factory is shutting down. You can't change that. UAW contracts expire, contracts with vendors expire.

[Special Ed]

Well this kills all the fun:smilielol:

This is the funniest thing I've seen all day.:dude3:

[ACRucrazy]

Sorry, but we just don't allow forum advertising posts from vendors that are not site sponsors.

Last edited by City; 9 Minutes Ago at 03:20 PM. Reason: Sorry, but we just don't allow forum advertising posts from vendors that are not site sponsors.

Right on schedule

[drivingdutchman]

This was a concern of mine also. The Concierge told me they have been stressing to dealers and to shoppers that the Viper was on it's last year of production and that they would sell out. Many sat on the fence, not concerned. The fact is that this activity caused production not to be met in the time needed. The factory is shutting down. You can't change that. UAW contracts expire, contracts with vendors expire.

I like how you use hypotheticals to make yourself feel better. You guys pulled a fast one and FCA let you get away with it. Congrats. ***Edit*** the original post was edited to remove the hypothetical comments.

[City]

Right on schedule

For the record, I've invited him to sponsor. Seems like a perfect and timely opportunity.

[XXX BLK]

Gerry Wood Viper, we will have your banner up asap. Thank you for supporting the VOA.

[ACRucrazy]

For the record, I've invited him to sponsor. Seems like a perfect and timely opportunity.

So delete his first post instead of giving him an opportunity to become a sponsor. Makes sense.

[drivingdutchman]

Holy post edits batman. Half the story is now gone.

[zzmike]

I saved them before the edits, thinking they may be changed. Hopefully they will be put back.

[Larryskillzs]

I find it comical people are crying that they didn't get a chance to order their ACR-E when it's been in production for 2 years.

Give me a break. It's embarrassing to read all of this butt hurt over nothing.

I brought my Viper at Gerrywood and they were awesome... minus pulling our credit 10 times. Lol. Something glitched up there.

There were ONLY 100-200 orders left anyway. It's a hand built machine, not a Dodge Caravan. What did you think was going to happen? They could bang out 1500 this year? That's not possible.

[GerryWoodViper]

I just talked to them to change colors/options of one of their special Gerry wood editions and was told they won't change them to color/options I want.

Please note that it's not that we "won't", but we "cannot" change cars once they have been picked up and put in "D" status. Our apologies.

[GerryWoodViper]

I find it comical people are crying that they didn't get a chance to order their ACR-E when it's been in production for 2 years.

Give me a break. It's embarrassing to read all of this butt hurt over nothing.

I brought my Viper at Gerrywood and they were awesome... minus pulling our credit 10 times. Lol. Something glitched up there.

There were ONLY 100-200 orders left anyway. It's a hand built machine, not a Dodge Caravan. What did you think was going to happen? They could bang out 1500 this year? That's not possible.

Thanks Larry! We can't say that, so we are glad someone else did. We have a track day coming up Nov 4 at CMP, and we'll have our demo ACR-E there also and a film crew to share the experience. Come on down!

[Martin]

Well, hopefully this all gets resolved if Gerry Wood Viper is willing to modify the orders for the cars that still only have VONs. I know that if I had spent as much time as I did configuring my car, and the only way to get it was to work in good faith with a dealer that can get the car, I'd go that route. Let's just hope that Gerry Wood Viper is willing to work with people on that front. It certainly would be a sign of good will - and it would probably help to get rid of some of the gawdawful color combos that are likely going to be a liability going forward...

[ViperGeorge]

I find it comical people are crying that they didn't get a chance to order their ACR-E when it's been in production for 2 years.

Give me a break. It's embarrassing to read all of this butt hurt over nothing.

I brought my Viper at Gerrywood and they were awesome... minus pulling our credit 10 times. Lol. Something glitched up there.

There were ONLY 100-200 orders left anyway. It's a hand built machine, not a Dodge Caravan. What did you think was going to happen? They could bang out 1500 this year? That's not possible.

Agree. They put up their money up and bought a bunch of Vipers. Anyone else could have pulled the trigger sooner. Personally I think many of their color combos are pretty sharp, not all buy many.

[XXX BLK]

So delete his first post instead of giving him an opportunity to become a sponsor. Makes sense.

ACRucrazy, I take full responsibility of that because I didn't let the mods know I'm still doing my day job :) thanks

[GerryWoodViper]

REPOST (now that we are a paid advertiser):

Viper VOA members,

There is a lot of conversation about Gerry Wood Dodge and our recent and sudden acquisition of the 2017 Dodge Viper inventory. With so many opinions and conversation regarding this we felt it was important to lay out some facts, so that any final feelings can be based on facts and not misinformation.
I’d love to say that we ordered so many Vipers because of some conspiracy theory, insider hand-shake, corruption or that we duped the system, but we didn’t. It would be a more interesting story if we did, that’s for sure. It was this simple; I asked my Dodge reps if I could order some cars. They were happy to allow me to order as many as I wanted. It can only assume that the “big” viper dealers have not been placing orders for the cars to fill production, and Dodge was happy a dealer was interested. It should be noted that we have been very quietly selling several vipers on a monthly basis, and for 2016 we were #1 on the Southeastern USA for Viper sales, not garnering or asking for any attention.

How did we get GTC’s for stock? Simple really, Dodge said that with the volume we were buying we could order GTC’s for stock. We think the Viper is truly special, and we also happen to think that our special editions are truly special. Several people happen to agree, and perhaps time will tell what the buyers think as we send the prospective buyers the paint samples and collect deposits and deliver cars.

We initially posted all our orders with VON’s, so that buyers would have the ability to see what we had on order. However as of 10/3/16 72 of the cars have VIN’s and we are in the process of updating the listings. They should all be updated by Thursday morning. The remaining cars with VON’s are guaranteed to be built, as they are all in “C” status which means “scheduled-tentative schedule”. It is important to note that the reason we have not agreed to change our cars on order is really simple – Dodge will not let us. Once it has been picked up with a VIN it’s closed. We are straight-up about what we can and can’t do. If we can, we do. If we can’t, we don’t sugar coat it. I think the consumer would rather know the facts over what they want to hear. We’ll leave that to the politicians.

For those who think we are “cornering the market”, or will mark up our cars you all couldn’t be farther from the truth. I have never mark cars up over MSRP. In fact, you can search out all of our Hellcat buyers who purchased in the heyday of the Hellcat sales and see that not one client was even asked for a premium, clearly placing Gerry Wood Dodge in rare company.

I am very excited to hear that everyone still wants cars, and if we offended anyone then I truly apologize. We just saw that the orders were not being filled and the plant is closing down, so we wanted to make sure all these cars were produced. If anyone wishes to talk badly about us, we will let them get it off their chest without response. It certainly won’t be because they a bad experience in doing business with us. If you want to have fun buying a Viper, from a team of people who absolutely love this car, then we’ll be honored to be your Viper dealer.
Yours truly,

Brad Wood

Gerry Wood Dodge
www.gerrywoodviper.com
704-216-2686

PS: Feel free to call us and have conversations with us. Every car that we have coming has a complete description of all options specified for that exact car, and for one-of-one customer color and stripes even has the AkzoNobel color number listed. We have a Custom Color service whereby we ship to a perspective buyer the actual paint chip that the car is being painted. We will even send you the build sheet! If you like it and want it, simply sign it and send it back. You get that sample when you take delivery to match up with the vehicle. You know 100% what you're buying.

[City]

So delete his first post instead of giving him an opportunity to become a sponsor. Makes sense.
I note that you are thrilled with my efforts (figure it's best to reply in your "language"). Sarcasm aside, there's 2 sides here as our existing sponsors don't appreciate when we are lax with our moderation (and I am astute at "lax").

Regardless, XXX and I were not in direct contact until after the fact, so the fault here is mine. My apologies to GerryWoodViper. He IS now a sponsor, though his banner is not yet up.

[The_Ruski_Driver]

REPOST (now that we are a paid advertiser):

Viper VOA members,

There is a lot of conversation about Gerry Wood Dodge and our recent and sudden acquisition of the 2017 Dodge Viper inventory. With so many opinions and conversation regarding this we felt it was important to lay out some facts, so that any final feelings can be based on facts and not misinformation.
I’d love to say that we ordered so many Vipers because of some conspiracy theory, insider hand-shake, corruption or that we duped the system, but we didn’t. It would be a more interesting story if we did, that’s for sure. It was this simple; I asked my Dodge reps if I could order some cars. They were happy to allow me to order as many as I wanted. It can only assume that the “big” viper dealers have not been placing orders for the cars to fill production, and Dodge was happy a dealer was interested. It should be noted that we have been very quietly selling several vipers on a monthly basis, and for 2016 we were #1 on the Southeastern USA for Viper sales, not garnering or asking for any attention.

How did we get GTC’s for stock? Simple really, Dodge said that with the volume we were buying we could order GTC’s for stock. We think the Viper is truly special, and we also happen to think that our special editions are truly special. Several people happen to agree, and perhaps time will tell what the buyers think as we send the prospective buyers the paint samples and collect deposits and deliver cars.

We initially posted all our orders with VON’s, so that buyers would have the ability to see what we had on order. However as of 10/3/16 72 of the cars have VIN’s and we are in the process of updating the listings. They should all be updated by Thursday morning. The remaining cars with VON’s are guaranteed to be built, as they are all in “C” status which means “scheduled-tentative schedule”. It is important to note that the reason we have not agreed to change our cars on order is really simple – Dodge will not let us. Once it has been picked up with a VIN it’s closed. We are straight-up about what we can and can’t do. If we can, we do. If we can’t, we don’t sugar coat it. I think the consumer would rather know the facts over what they want to hear. We’ll leave that to the politicians.

For those who think we are “cornering the market”, or will mark up our cars you all couldn’t be farther from the truth. I have never mark cars up over MSRP. In fact, you can search out all of our Hellcat buyers who purchased in the heyday of the Hellcat sales and see that not one client was even asked for a premium, clearly placing Gerry Wood Dodge in rare company.

I am very excited to hear that everyone still wants cars, and if we offended anyone then I truly apologize. We just saw that the orders were not being filled and the plant is closing down, so we wanted to make sure all these cars were produced. If anyone wishes to talk badly about us, we will let them get it off their chest without response. It certainly won’t be because they a bad experience in doing business with us. If you want to have fun buying a Viper, from a team of people who absolutely love this car, then we’ll be honored to be your Viper dealer.
Yours truly,

Brad Wood

Gerry Wood Dodge
www.gerrywoodviper.com
704-216-2686

PS: Feel free to call us and have conversations with us. Every car that we have coming has a complete description of all options specified for that exact car, and for one-of-one customer color and stripes even has the AkzoNobel color number listed. We have a Custom Color service whereby we ship to a perspective buyer the actual paint chip that the car is being painted. We will even send you the build sheet! If you like it and want it, simply sign it and send it back. You get that sample when you take delivery to match up with the vehicle. You know 100% what you're buying.

Thank you for keeping the vipers alive as long as possible, instead of letting them possibly get scrapped due to low sales. I am not in the market as I already have a wonderful LE that is very dear to me, however, I do have some friends interested and will send them your way.

[ACRucrazy]

I note that you are thrilled with my efforts (figure it's best to reply in your "language"). Sarcasm aside, there's 2 sides here as our existing sponsors don't appreciate when we are lax with our moderation (and I am astute at "lax").

Regardless, XXX and I were not in direct contact until after the fact, so the fault here is mine. My apologies to GerryWoodViper. He IS now a sponsor, though his banner is not yet up.

I have no doubt his first post being up 10-15 minutes set off the "non sponsor" alarm with the existing sponsors. Here is a pat on the back for being quick to the rescue.

[ViperGeorge]

REPOST (now that we are a paid advertiser):

Viper VOA members,

There is a lot of conversation about Gerry Wood Dodge and our recent and sudden acquisition of the 2017 Dodge Viper inventory. With so many opinions and conversation regarding this we felt it was important to lay out some facts, so that any final feelings can be based on facts and not misinformation.
I’d love to say that we ordered so many Vipers because of some conspiracy theory, insider hand-shake, corruption or that we duped the system, but we didn’t. It would be a more interesting story if we did, that’s for sure. It was this simple; I asked my Dodge reps if I could order some cars. They were happy to allow me to order as many as I wanted. It can only assume that the “big” viper dealers have not been placing orders for the cars to fill production, and Dodge was happy a dealer was interested. It should be noted that we have been very quietly selling several vipers on a monthly basis, and for 2016 we were #1 on the Southeastern USA for Viper sales, not garnering or asking for any attention.

How did we get GTC’s for stock? Simple really, Dodge said that with the volume we were buying we could order GTC’s for stock. We think the Viper is truly special, and we also happen to think that our special editions are truly special. Several people happen to agree, and perhaps time will tell what the buyers think as we send the prospective buyers the paint samples and collect deposits and deliver cars.

We initially posted all our orders with VON’s, so that buyers would have the ability to see what we had on order. However as of 10/3/16 72 of the cars have VIN’s and we are in the process of updating the listings. They should all be updated by Thursday morning. The remaining cars with VON’s are guaranteed to be built, as they are all in “C” status which means “scheduled-tentative schedule”. It is important to note that the reason we have not agreed to change our cars on order is really simple – Dodge will not let us. Once it has been picked up with a VIN it’s closed. We are straight-up about what we can and can’t do. If we can, we do. If we can’t, we don’t sugar coat it. I think the consumer would rather know the facts over what they want to hear. We’ll leave that to the politicians.

For those who think we are “cornering the market”, or will mark up our cars you all couldn’t be farther from the truth. I have never mark cars up over MSRP. In fact, you can search out all of our Hellcat buyers who purchased in the heyday of the Hellcat sales and see that not one client was even asked for a premium, clearly placing Gerry Wood Dodge in rare company.

I am very excited to hear that everyone still wants cars, and if we offended anyone then I truly apologize. We just saw that the orders were not being filled and the plant is closing down, so we wanted to make sure all these cars were produced. If anyone wishes to talk badly about us, we will let them get it off their chest without response. It certainly won’t be because they a bad experience in doing business with us. If you want to have fun buying a Viper, from a team of people who absolutely love this car, then we’ll be honored to be your Viper dealer.
Yours truly,

Brad Wood

Gerry Wood Dodge
www.gerrywoodviper.com
704-216-2686

PS: Feel free to call us and have conversations with us. Every car that we have coming has a complete description of all options specified for that exact car, and for one-of-one customer color and stripes even has the AkzoNobel color number listed. We have a Custom Color service whereby we ship to a perspective buyer the actual paint chip that the car is being painted. We will even send you the build sheet! If you like it and want it, simply sign it and send it back. You get that sample when you take delivery to match up with the vehicle. You know 100% what you're buying.

One suggestion, fix your website. Maybe its my browser (Chrome on Windows 10) but your site keeps bouncing up and down. Pretty annoying when you are trying to read the features and options of a specific car. It literally acts like I'm moving the mouse up and down, which I'm not.

[GerryWoodViper]

I have no doubt his first post being up 10-15 minutes set off the "non sponsor" alarm with the existing sponsors. Here is a pat on the back for being quick to the rescue.

I had actually filled out the forms to commit to 1 year with full pages in each of the next four editions of the VOA magazine (excellent piece too by the way, best magazine in the Owners Association IMO) and classifieds this morning at 10am. Communication being what it is we were not all on the same page.

[swexlin]

I can understand the business reason FCA had for allowing this - this way it was guaranteed that the Viper would sell out. However, if I were just about to order an ACR (or any model Viper), and then this happened, I'd be pretty disappointed. I bet certain people at the Big 3 are pretty upset with this as well. My $0.02. I don't have a dog in this fight, as I'm enjoying my 2013 Track Pack.

[GerryWoodViper]

I can understand the business reason FCA had for allowing this - this way it was guaranteed that the Viper would sell out. However, if I were just about to order an ACR (or any model Viper), and then this happened, I'd be pretty disappointed. I bet certain people at the Big 3 are pretty upset with this as well. My $0.02. I don't have a dog in this fight, as I'm enjoying my 2013 Track Pack.

swexlin, we are still able to order GTS and GTC (without ACR spec) so orders are still available and we can help with those. Dodge killed the GT and SRT trims many weeks ago.

[swexlin]

Good to know, thank you for clarifying.

[ACRucrazy]

swexlin, we are still able to order GTS and GTC (without ACR spec) so orders are still available and we can help with those. Dodge killed the GT and SRT trims many weeks ago.

The writing has been on the wall. Even the "big 3" have been making posts to get orders in because they already took away SRT/TA and GT.

I am glad someone stepped up and assured the last year would sell out

[ViperPete]

REPOST (now that we are a paid advertiser):

Viper VOA members,

There is a lot of conversation about Gerry Wood Dodge and our recent and sudden acquisition of the 2017 Dodge Viper inventory. With so many opinions and conversation regarding this we felt it was important to lay out some facts, so that any final feelings can be based on facts and not misinformation.
I’d love to say that we ordered so many Vipers because of some conspiracy theory, insider hand-shake, corruption or that we duped the system, but we didn’t. It would be a more interesting story if we did, that’s for sure. It was this simple; I asked my Dodge reps if I could order some cars. They were happy to allow me to order as many as I wanted. It can only assume that the “big” viper dealers have not been placing orders for the cars to fill production, and Dodge was happy a dealer was interested. It should be noted that we have been very quietly selling several vipers on a monthly basis, and for 2016 we were #1 on the Southeastern USA for Viper sales, not garnering or asking for any attention.

How did we get GTC’s for stock? Simple really, Dodge said that with the volume we were buying we could order GTC’s for stock. We think the Viper is truly special, and we also happen to think that our special editions are truly special. Several people happen to agree, and perhaps time will tell what the buyers think as we send the prospective buyers the paint samples and collect deposits and deliver cars.

We initially posted all our orders with VON’s, so that buyers would have the ability to see what we had on order. However as of 10/3/16 72 of the cars have VIN’s and we are in the process of updating the listings. They should all be updated by Thursday morning. The remaining cars with VON’s are guaranteed to be built, as they are all in “C” status which means “scheduled-tentative schedule”. It is important to note that the reason we have not agreed to change our cars on order is really simple – Dodge will not let us. Once it has been picked up with a VIN it’s closed. We are straight-up about what we can and can’t do. If we can, we do. If we can’t, we don’t sugar coat it. I think the consumer would rather know the facts over what they want to hear. We’ll leave that to the politicians.

For those who think we are “cornering the market”, or will mark up our cars you all couldn’t be farther from the truth. I have never mark cars up over MSRP. In fact, you can search out all of our Hellcat buyers who purchased in the heyday of the Hellcat sales and see that not one client was even asked for a premium, clearly placing Gerry Wood Dodge in rare company.

I am very excited to hear that everyone still wants cars, and if we offended anyone then I truly apologize. We just saw that the orders were not being filled and the plant is closing down, so we wanted to make sure all these cars were produced. If anyone wishes to talk badly about us, we will let them get it off their chest without response. It certainly won’t be because they a bad experience in doing business with us. If you want to have fun buying a Viper, from a team of people who absolutely love this car, then we’ll be honored to be your Viper dealer.
Yours truly,

Brad Wood

Gerry Wood Dodge
www.gerrywoodviper.com
704-216-2686

PS: Feel free to call us and have conversations with us. Every car that we have coming has a complete description of all options specified for that exact car, and for one-of-one customer color and stripes even has the AkzoNobel color number listed. We have a Custom Color service whereby we ship to a perspective buyer the actual paint chip that the car is being painted. We will even send you the build sheet! If you like it and want it, simply sign it and send it back. You get that sample when you take delivery to match up with the vehicle. You know 100% what you're buying.

I for one am totally happy that you bought a ton of Vipers. Does it affect some buyers negatively because they can't get their "dream" 1 of 1 car? Sure it does. But at least they are being built. You had the balls to spend millions of dollars on a car that is being discontinued, has never sold that well, and is expensive!

Gotta face it guys. If Gerry Wood Dodge is really going to sell them for MSRP or less, this move isn't about making profit.

Why didn't any of the "Big 3" or 4 or whatever Dodge stores order 30-40 each? I'd be interested in hearing the answers.

Nice to have a big Viper dealer on the east coast! Welcome to the Club :)

EDIT.... Some really nice color selections!

[zzmike]

I for one am totally happy that you bought a ton of Vipers. Does it affect some buyers negatively because they can't get their "dream" 1 of 1 car? Sure it does. But at least they are being built. You had the balls to spend millions of dollars on a car that is being discontinued, has never sold that well, and is expensive!

Gotta face it guys. If Gerry Wood Dodge is really going to sell them for MSRP or less, this move isn't about making profit.

Agreed

[ViperJon]

Gotta face it guys. If Gerry Wood Dodge is really going to sell them for MSRP or less, this move isn't about making profit.
!

Huh? Dealers don't make money selling for MSRP? This isn't about making a profit? Sooooo this is a public service or a charity then. That IS unusual.

[ViperPete]

Huh? Dealers don't make money selling for MSRP? This isn't about making a profit? Sooooo this is a public service or a charity then. That IS unusual.

Vipers aren't marked up very much Jon. Id be willing to be that dealers make more on a Hemi ram than a Viper.

[ViperDC]

I am glad someone stepped up and assured the last year would sell out

Agreed.

[Martin]

Vipers aren't marked up very much Jon. Id be willing to be that dealers make more on a Hemi ram than a Viper.

When you factor in the usual demanding nature of Viper buyers, you're probably right. But, I think the markup from invoice and holdback are the same as for the rest of the FCA lineup. I also think there is a much bigger markup for most of the options - something like 11% or so. There's definitely money to be made selling Vipers - even at invoice.

[Whitemamba]

Agree. They put up their money up and bought a bunch of Vipers. Anyone else could have pulled the trigger sooner. Personally I think many of their color combos are pretty sharp, not all buy many.

Exactly! Very good post. Anyone with the money could have came in and bought a bunch of Vipers. Alot of us would have liked to do so but very few have the finds to do so. AS the saying goes, Money talks, BS walks. lol

GerryWoodViper: Welcome aboard the VOA. This is a great club with some very caring people. You have to realize that they are very passionate about these cars and as such are vocal about their concerns. Welcome aboard once again!!!

[ViperJon]

Vipers aren't marked up very much Jon. Id be willing to be that dealers make more on a Hemi ram than a Viper.

That may be true Pete but one dealer doesn't have all the Ram's in the country. They make a healthy profit at MSRP because I know dealers who were selling at invoice (about 8K off) and still were making money. So MSRP means at least 8K over invoice. Add in holdback etc and they are making five figures at MSRP. Not too bad.

[38D]

Even at MSRP this is the highest performaing car you can buy. Think about the people paying 300-350k for a 175k msrp GT3RS; that's my definition of price gouging.

[Stealth]

Exactly! Very good post. Anyone with the money could have came in and bought a bunch of Vipers. Alot of us would have liked to do so but very few have the finds to do so. AS the saying goes, Money talks, BS walks. lol

GerryWoodViper: Welcome aboard the VOA. This is a great club with some very caring people. You have to realize that they are very passionate about these cars and as such are vocal about their concerns. Welcome aboard once again!!!

+1 Welcome GerryWood!

[Coloviper]

Not that I was attracted to the ACR(E), or TA 2.0 anyway (not a big wing guy or a good racer of any kind) but since we are getting some solid information out finally, GerryWood can you comment on exact what allocation is left for order for purchasing a lowly GTS or GTC? 50 cars left, 2 cars left, 100 cars left?

Glad to see someone stepping up to finish out production so that is admirable. I guess there was a point in time where communications "could have gone out to the club", to basically say now or never on 1 of 1 order ability with Gerry Wood before it was finalized? It seems FCA/Dodge has a propensity for knowing exactly how to screw up and upset a potential buyer. So strange!

Anyway, if people knew they could still custom order their 1 of 1 GTC (non-ACR), that might sell out all the remaining orders and people could get as close to their dream car, minus wings and brakes as they could get. Problem is there is no communications anymore. The grape vine communications, with all the rumors of the car over the years is simply not reliable anymore. They have been saying order early but many felt why order with 1 month to winter. Dodge could have even communicated the end date to move people but no communications from them period.

Anyway, would be good to know what is left to order if people wanted a lowly GTS or GTC.

[Boba Fett]

In any event FCA would be the ones to blame

[ViperPete]

That may be true Pete but one dealer doesn't have all the Ram's in the country. They make a healthy profit at MSRP because I know dealers who were selling at invoice (about 8K off) and still were making money. So MSRP means at least 8K over invoice. Add in holdback etc and they are making five figures at MSRP. Not too bad.

Profit is not a dirty word

:)

[Boba Fett]

oh yea welcome Gerry wood

[skydeals]

Gerry Wood...Great call to buy the rest of the ACR s....As I have said before the big 3 dealers and any one else had since last September to buy a ACR or stock up on them.......If Gerry Wood or FCA would have made a announcement to buyers "hurry up and buy your ACR because were going to sale the rest of them next month to one dealer" that would be crazy..Gerry Wood would be loosing the potential to make part of his profit on this move with less cars to buy.....Again it looks like we have a strong dealer that has a good reputation and that is going to preserve and make sure we had a early sell out of this great car....I think this move is the best thing to keep the value strong on the ACR...it keeps the demand high with a early sell out....Great move Gerry Wood......Skydeals

[Viper Granny]

Not that I was attracted to the ACR(E), or TA 2.0 anyway (not a big wing guy or a good racer of any kind) but since we are getting some solid information out finally, GerryWood can you comment on exact what allocation is left for order for purchasing a lowly GTS or GTC? 50 cars left, 2 cars left, 100 cars left?

Glad to see someone stepping up to finish out production so that is admirable. I guess there was a point in time where communications "could have gone out to the club", to basically say now or never on 1 of 1 order ability with Gerry Wood before it was finalized? It seems FCA/Dodge has a propensity for knowing exactly how to screw up and upset a potential buyer. So strange!

Anyway, if people knew they could still custom order their 1 of 1 GTC (non-ACR), that might sell out all the remaining orders and people could get as close to their dream car, minus wings and brakes as they could get. Problem is there is no communications anymore. The grape vine communications, with all the rumors of the car over the years is simply not reliable anymore. They have been saying order early but many felt why order with 1 month to winter. Dodge could have even communicated the end date to move people but no communications from them period.

Anyway, would be good to know what is left to order if people wanted a lowly GTS or GTC.
I'm going to assume (and we all know the adage that goes with that word) that you are being facetious when you call a $100,000+ GTC "lowly," right? Because I've waited a long time and worked very hard to finally purchase my 1 of 1 SSG GTC. I don't race (sorry, "track") so I chose not to spend the extra bazillion on an ACR-E, though they are really cool. No Viper is lowly. Can I get an "Amen" on that? Yep.

[ACRSNK]

Even at MSRP this is the highest performaing car you can buy. Think about the people paying 300-350k for a 175k msrp GT3RS; that's my definition of price gouging.

Were you at Kimball's a couple weeks ago? There was a purple ACR-E there. Very sharp car. A few of us are going this Friday. You should bring your car so the rest of the Viper guys can drool.

[GerryWoodViper]

Not that I was attracted to the ACR(E), or TA 2.0 anyway (not a big wing guy or a good racer of any kind) but since we are getting some solid information out finally, GerryWood can you comment on exact what allocation is left for order for purchasing a lowly GTS or GTC? 50 cars left, 2 cars left, 100 cars left?

Glad to see someone stepping up to finish out production so that is admirable. I guess there was a point in time where communications "could have gone out to the club", to basically say now or never on 1 of 1 order ability with Gerry Wood before it was finalized? It seems FCA/Dodge has a propensity for knowing exactly how to screw up and upset a potential buyer. So strange!

Anyway, if people knew they could still custom order their 1 of 1 GTC (non-ACR), that might sell out all the remaining orders and people could get as close to their dream car, minus wings and brakes as they could get. Problem is there is no communications anymore. The grape vine communications, with all the rumors of the car over the years is simply not reliable anymore. They have been saying order early but many felt why order with 1 month to winter. Dodge could have even communicated the end date to move people but no communications from them period.

Anyway, would be good to know what is left to order if people wanted a lowly GTS or GTC.

Coloviper, I can confirm that as of today we are able to order GTS and GTC Vipers. The GTC reservations system has removed all ACR, ACR-E options/items/trims, thus leaving the ability to order all other items up to T/A2.0 and such. The Viper is not sold out, but I have been informed that with 2 cars per day ACR production we can no longer order ACR. Will that change, who knows (as we all can see anything is possible). Let's be honest though, the factory is shutting down. The Contracts have expired. FCA, LLC has made it clear they are not making this car - as we know it today- any more. The EPA, MPG, CID, N/A, 6Spd, and all other acronyms that make this car so wonderful, special and timeless are its demise. I am not able to say how many Vipers remain, as I've heard a couple different figures as well as "we can't tell you that". I would suggest those interested in getting a car get to doing it. We have allocation, and I'm sure other dealers do also. One day we will all log in to order a Viper and poof, it'll be gone. It's unfortunate that any dealer has been perceived as "being a dealer" when they warn their consumer that maybe the car that has been officially announced as dead after 2017 was selling out. Perhaps more important is that with such a low production car anyone truly wanting and willing to purchase one has been surprised by any of this. Any of the 2,400 dealers in the USA could have ordered some, a few, or all of them. All they had to do was.... ask.

[GerryWoodViper]

Well, hopefully this all gets resolved if Gerry Wood Viper is willing to modify the orders for the cars that still only have VONs. I know that if I had spent as much time as I did configuring my car, and the only way to get it was to work in good faith with a dealer that can get the car, I'd go that route. Let's just hope that Gerry Wood Viper is willing to work with people on that front. It certainly would be a sign of good will - and it would probably help to get rid of some of the gawdawful color combos that are likely going to be a liability going forward...

Martin, the flexibility to modify orders is not something any dealer has control of once an order (for a Viper, Ram, Dart or a minvan) has been picked up. In addition, if you are comparing what we've created as "the actual color" and posted to the vehicle listing (with a watermark stating not actual color) to what the AkzoNobel color number is (that's clearly stated on each car) then our conclusion that they are gawdawful would be ill conceived.

[parabs]

coloviper, i can confirm that as of today we are able to order gts and gtc vipers. The gtc reservations system has removed all acr, acr-e options/items/trims, thus leaving the ability to order all other items up to t/a2.0 and such. The viper is not sold out, but i have been informed that with 2 cars per day acr production we can no longer order acr. Will that change, who knows (as we all can see anything is possible). Let's be honest though, the factory is shutting down. The contracts have expired. Fca, llc has made it clear they are not making this car - as we know it today- any more. The epa, mpg, cid, n/a, 6spd, and all other acronyms that make this car so wonderful, special and timeless are its demise. I am not able to say how many vipers remain, as i've heard a couple different figures as well as "we can't tell you that". I would suggest those interested in getting a car get to doing it. We have allocation, and i'm sure other dealers do also. One day we will all log in to order a viper and poof, it'll be gone. It's unfortunate that any dealer has been perceived as "being a dealer" when they warn their consumer that maybe the car that has been officially announced as dead after 2017 was selling out. Perhaps more important is that with such a low production car anyone truly wanting and willing to purchase one has been surprised by any of this. Any of the 2,400 dealers in the usa could have ordered some, a few, or all of them. All they had to do was.... Ask.

OH ThE HUMANITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ACR Extreme]

OH ThE HUMANITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's that supposed to mean - he takes the time to share and that's burdensome to you who hasn't bought a Viper in 11 years.

You or others don't like it don't buy it - but to bash him and others bash his colors is just ridiculous behavior.

Congratulations GerryWoodViper wish you the best what a great story to have that much confidence!

[bluesrt]

All the crybabies where not gonna buy one anyway. Tipical history

[Terminator02]

Welcome to the forums and that's a nice introduction. I've stayed out of this whole fiasco because it's not worth speculating. It's nice to know, and not surprising, that Gerry Wood will be selling vipers without markup. Plenty of quality dealers are out there that sell cars at good and competitive prices. I also like hearing how successful this dealer has been without the braggadocio that some other dealers rely on.

I'm not shocked by the order banks closing. There were plenty of rumors going around and it's already October of 2016 so personally I'd never wait this long to decide to special order a low volume hand crafted automobile. I'm sorry some prospects got burned but the onus of blame doesn't rely on anyone but the one who waited too late!

I'm glad to see a viper dealer making a smart business move, who says they will be transparent with pricing and who already has satisfied customers vouching for them. Seems like a win win for almost anyone. Want a final final final edition ACR? Go buy one as there seems to be plenty going to him. Want a one of one final final final edition viper? Go order a GTC asap. Want your own final final final edition 1 of 1 ACR? Sorry you waited too long. Simple.

[Coloviper]

I'm going to assume (and we all know the adage that goes with that word) that you are being facetious when you call a $100,000+ GTC "lowly," right? Because I've waited a long time and worked very hard to finally purchase my 1 of 1 SSG GTC. I don't race (sorry, "track") so I chose not to spend the extra bazillion on an ACR-E, though they are really cool. No Viper is lowly. Can I get an "Amen" on that? Yep.

Of course I am joking about the lowly part. I have been a multiple Viper owner for over 10 years and believe me I killed myself building and selling my engineering business in 2006 to buy that first Viper new. Can't afford a new GEN V this time around unless I sell my wireless communications business I built now. Not sure why everyone is so jumpy on every single word these days. Taking the fun out if it when people are upset at owners with older Vipers not in an immediate position to buy.

Appreciate the Gerry Woods reply but not everyone has their funds squared away at the right times for a 2017 car order not even being built yet. Don't appreciate the can't respond to what is left to order aspect. The whole thing seems strange and more of the same. The only good part is no more threads on motors blowing for awhile.

[Mark1107]

Brad/Gerrywood, the bold are the leaders and the captains of industry!

I sent Jalopnik an email tipping them off for them to write the story. I'm really happy you're getting all of this press and coverage. There is no bad press! Congratulations again!

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[Camfab]

Great move on the dealers part, impressive that they guarantee MSRP. Not many dealers would say that. Bummer for the few people who got aced out. It's also true that anytime this stuff happens, suddenly everyone was ready to buy tomorrow. Great news, you can still get one. Like Martin said, it's not cancer.

[MK2_Viper]

Welcome Gerrywood ! I wish you all the success with your big buy .

[Mark1107]

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[BJG32]

Success is not found in your comfort zone! Congrats and good luck Gerry Woods!

[NKC]

And here I am, sitting and waiting for my Canadian 2016 (then 2017) acr-e order since January. You guys had more than enough time to order and I couldn't even get the one I wanted before all the hype. Btw, any Canadians here with a confirmed 2017 vin?

[parabs]

What's that supposed to mean - he takes the time to share and that's burdensome to you who hasn't bought a Viper in 11 years.

You or others don't like it don't buy it - but to bash him and others bash his colors is just ridiculous behavior.

Congratulations GerryWoodViper wish you the best what a great story to have that much confidence!

I was reading the GerryWoodViper post and for some reason the question "what would chuck Heston say about this?" Popped in my head.

100% kidding around, and, apparently, a very poor effort at kidding around! That or we are all seeming wound very tightly on these boards.

[uberpube]

And here I am, sitting and waiting for my Canadian 2016 (then 2017) acr-e order since January. You guys had more than enough time to order and I couldn't even get the one I wanted before all the hype. Btw, any Canadians here with a confirmed 2017 vin?
Yes, I have a Vin.

[ACR Extreme]

I was reading the GerryWoodViper post and for some reason the question "what would chuck Heston say about this?" Popped in my head.

100% kidding around, and, apparently, a very poor effort at kidding around! That or we are all seeming wound very tightly on these boards.

Timing is everything :)

Heston supported the leaders - especially if he believed in them ... correct?

GerryWoodViper believed in Viper so much he bought every one he could that's commitment.

Owned a ton of cars posted on a few forums - never saw dealers let alone the owners post.

Modify factory cars - love this reminds of the days of Yenko etc taken for granted and have no idea why there is so much Debbie Downer stuff and this particular dealer buying / selling stock in the NA V10 made in USA when has this happened before and or when will it happen again ... never so I simply suggest embracing this it's going to be one of those stories to be told for a long time.

[GasGas]

And here I am, sitting and waiting for my Canadian 2016 (then 2017) acr-e order since January. You guys had more than enough time to order and I couldn't even get the one I wanted before all the hype. Btw, any Canadians here with a confirmed 2017 vin?

In Canada, your dealer's relationship with FCA and how much time and effort they (your dealer) are willing to spend getting your acr-e built, is the answer to "when will I get my car?" Unless your dealer genuinely knows the unique Viper ordering system (it's somewhat of a moving target), and will make the required effort, then good luck.

[GerryWoodViper]

Mark1107, I cannot tell you how much we appreciate the support. This will blow over, and a lot of people are going to have a lot of fun buying these cars. I'm already have a ton of fun selling them. There are a lot of great brands welling great sports cars, but the people we have sold Vipers to are the most modest, genuine, fun, realistic and non-pretentious people we've sold cars to. Our team is having a great time, and so are our buyers.

With much thanks, Brad Wood.

[NKC]

Yes, I have a Vin.

Can you PM me some details if its not too much trouble for you? When did you place the order? From which dealership? When were they able to approve the order and provide a VIN after you ordered yours? What did you order?


In Canada, your dealer's relationship with FCA and how much time and effort they (your dealer) are willing to spend getting your acr-e built, is the answer to "when will I get my car?" Unless your dealer genuinely knows the unique Viper ordering system (it's somewhat of a moving target), and will make the required effort, then good luck.

I placed all my faith into Willowbrook Chrysler (Vancouver BC) in January for a 2016 ACR-E and the owner has been a true Viper enthusiast and advocate for many years. He was able to obtain 4 allocations before I ordered, one going to my neighbor who got a very rare 1of1 ACR-E. I'm pretty sure my guy knows what he's doing since he's been hounding FCA Canada from day one. He's got 7 orders for 17's, mine being the first and his personal one being the second. Yet, here I am, without a clue of whether I'll get the one that I actually want.

I wonder why FCA makes it such a hassle for Canadian orders? They could've easily loaded off another 75-100 vipers to the Canadian market. Anyway, another dealer here who had 4 16's ACRs delivered is struggling with the same problem of ordering for the 17's. 6 weeks ago, a white w/black stripes ACR-E showed up on the lot and I couldn't help but snatch that up at over MSRP. I really wanted this car and waited over 9 months with nothing confirmed. All I wanted was a standard Black ACR-E with no options.

How many Canadians have a VIN for the 17's so far?

[sadil]

Can you PM me some details if its not too much trouble for you? When did you place the order? From which dealership? When were they able to approve the order and provide a VIN after you ordered yours? What did you order?



I placed all my faith into Willowbrook Chrysler (Vancouver BC) in January for a 2016 ACR-E and the owner has been a true Viper enthusiast and advocate for many years. He was able to obtain 4 allocations before I ordered, one going to my neighbor who got a very rare 1of1 ACR-E. I'm pretty sure my guy knows what he's doing since he's been hounding FCA Canada from day one. He's got 7 orders for 17's, mine being the first and his personal one being the second. Yet, here I am, without a clue of whether I'll get the one that I actually want.

I wonder why FCA makes it such a hassle for Canadian orders? They could've easily loaded off another 75-100 vipers to the Canadian market. Anyway, another dealer here who had 4 16's ACRs delivered is struggling with the same problem of ordering for the 17's. 6 weeks ago, a white w/black stripes ACR-E showed up on the lot and I couldn't help but snatch that up at over MSRP. I really wanted this car and waited over 9 months with nothing confirmed. All I wanted was a standard Black ACR-E with no options.

How many Canadians have a VIN for the 17's so far?

Your dealer should have an order sheet listing the VIN and VON. Not sure why your order will be cancelled after the VON was assigned. Everyone dropping deposits and walking away thinking their order has gone through. I know it should be like that but you really have to chase the documentation.

Just ask your dealer for the order sheet. PM your vin and I might be able to have it checked!

[NKC]

Your dealer should have an order sheet listing the VIN and VON. Not sure why your order will be cancelled after the VON was assigned. Everyone dropping deposits and walking away thinking their order has gone through. I know it should be like that but you really have to chase the documentation.

Just ask your dealer for the order sheet. PM your vin and I might be able to have it checked!

All I have is a deposit receipt and the agreed price, that's what's been bothering me for the past 9 months. The problem I'm being told is that they will not even allow a Canadian order be put in. Has something to do between FCA US and Canada. They use to be able to order directly with FCA US and something changed and they can only go through FCA Canada now. I've been asking the owner of the dealership almost every two weeks since January and same answer every time. I've even spoken to James at Viper concierge on several occasions regarding the Canadian situation and the possibility of ordering a 1of1 here. I don't believe I'm being jerked around by my dealer and I still believe in them but the problem seems to be out of any dealership's control at the moment.

I'm just curious to know more about my fellow Canadians and how they were able to obtain a VIN for the 17's.

[canadian viper]

n k c . pm sent

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Hey Brad: Welcome ! Keep my dream ACR under wraps for a bit......maybe see you at the track.

JonB

[GerryWoodViper]

Hey Brad: Welcome ! Keep my dream ACR under wraps for a bit......maybe see you at the track.

JonB

Thanks John! We got your harnesses installed in our 2017 ACR-E track car and will be at CMP 11/4

[GerryWoodViper]

I've started a new forum for questions specific to Viper availability, our dealership, our events, and our inventory.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/15791-GERRY-WOOD-VIPER-Inventory-Update-and-Website-Refresh

[BlknBlu]

This may increase the demand and value of the cars as they are no longer available to order. I very nice side affect that would impact every GEN.

I gotta have a Viper

Bruce

[NT-ACR]

This may increase the demand and value of the cars as they are no longer available to order. I very nice side affect that would impact every GEN.

I gotta have a Viper

Bruce

But the real question everyone is asking is whether they will reach the same value as a Ford GT. :t0152:

[aspman]

Im just shocked/amazed/ and scratching my head.....little Salisbury NC...home of Catawba College where my niece was All-American swimmer for 2 years.....Gov.Pat McCrorys college.....where we put on a large MOM[Mission of Mercy] Dental clinic every year and treat hundreds of patients for free.....how come never knew????? I would have stopped by.....will next year im there !

[outnumbered]

Guys, I'm only 45 minutes from this dealership. I actually bought a truck from them several years ago. If there is a car you would like me to check out, let me know.

[Policy Limits]

Closure might be indefinite but not permanent http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/chrysler/2016/10/10/fca-closes-dodge-viper-ordering-amid-cars-final-year/91875714/

[Special Ed]

Guys, I'm only 45 minutes from this dealership. I actually bought a truck from them several years ago. If there is a car you would like me to check out, let me know.

Not to step on Ron's toes, but if he is I should be able to cover for him and check a car for you.

[Vprbite]

This is pretty damn funny everybody getting all worked up about some nobody dealer cornering the market on Vipers.
I mean you just can't put a price on an authentic "Gerry Woods" edition collectable. Take my money!


you can put a price on a Don Yenko Camaro though, can't you? Doubtful it will be the same of course

I do agree though that it seems weird that a dealer can order this many but, they were there to be ordered, so we hadn't bought them up yet. I hope none of you get your orders cancelled. That would suck.

I'll be interested to see how this all shakes out.

[GerryWoodViper]

Guys, just got a call from the factory that our first One of One sold order for 2017 shipped today. We ordered it with the client April 6th. Six months.... It's safe to say that he opportunity to order 2017 Viper has existed for a very long while.

I am confident that no accepted and confirmed orders will be cancelled. However I am also confident that waiting 6 months and six days to order one may be an issue.

I hope this explains why we did what we did.

[Eugene Lee]

Guys, just got a call from the factory that our first One of One sold order for 2017 shipped today. We ordered it with the client April 6th. Six months.... It's safe to say that he opportunity to order 2017 Viper has existed for a very long while.

I am confident that no accepted and confirmed orders will be cancelled. However I am also confident that waiting 6 months and six days to order one may be an issue.

I hope this explains why we did what we did.

you guys have great service ! even for over the internet ! it made my transaction very simple (for an oversea buyer) and I can't wait to see my car for the first time tomorrow

[ViperTony]

Can the folks at Gerry Wood Dodge provide any details on the GenV engine failures? Maybe they have some insight into what's really going on with the failures.

[GerryWoodViper]

I'm not sure we can add anything to the conversation. We put 2,800 track miles on our TA2.0 in 2015 with not an issue. We have not had a warranty claim from any of our clients as of this point for it. We wish we had some solid info to share but we just don't.