2017 Orders

[Policy Limits]

A friend with a 16 ACR-E said his concierge sent him 150 pictures of the build from chasis to finish and contacted him weekly with updates. He ordered a 17 model 1.5 months ago and hasn't heard jack from anyone. I realize caap was closed for half of July but do you think the lack of communication is from getting 200 orders all at once or due to this controversy concerning engine failures? Has anyone else placed an order back in June and heard no reply?

[genVer]

A friend with a 16 ACR-E said his concierge sent him 150 pictures of the build from chasis to finish and contacted him weekly with updates. He ordered a 17 model 1.5 months ago and hasn't heard jack from anyone. I realize caap was closed for half of July but do you think the lack of communication is from getting 200 orders all at once or due to this controversy concerning engine failures? Has anyone else placed an order back in June and heard no reply?

I placed an order for a '17 ACR 2 weeks ago and have already received 1 phone call and 2 emails (1 each week).

[Smog Dog]

Did he place the order through a dealer that had an allocation?

[Viper Granny]

That's strange. I ordered a GTC through Bill Pemberton as soon as they started taking orders around the beginning of June or thereabouts. I have received 3 emails and 2 phone calls from the concierge already. 2 days ago I also received the speed form (?) car in my color.

[ACRucrazy]

Did he place the order through a dealer that had an allocation?

That's my question

[Policy Limits]

Hmmm the dealer definitely had allocation as its one of the popular ones. Thanks for the responses.

Any indication of anticipated build time? 6 months?

[ACRucrazy]

I was told more than 6 months, maybe even a full year with the special editions and rush of 2017 orders.

[Policy Limits]

Makes sense. They aren't going to hire and train new staff when they're going to be shutting down. Plus they apparently got as many orders in one week as they did for the entire previous model year

[Policy Limits]

If the car gets finished in the dead of winter with heavy snow will the plant store it until spring?

[bluesrt]

no they will ship it to the dealer of choice, or who you ordered it from

[ACRucrazy]

If the car gets finished in the dead of winter with heavy snow will the plant store it until spring?

Nope. They can't hold them. Even if you're doing plant pick up.

[Chorps]

Nope. They can't hold them. Even if you're doing plant pick up.

They better be giving a set of free tires with every winter purchase then because all those super sticky tires should never be subjected to temperatures near or below freezing.

[Policy Limits]

Maybe the dealers will hold them. A buddy had his F12 order completed in the middle of a blizzard and his dealer stored it for him until the snow cleared.

[XSnake]

GTC cars are not sold on allocation. They are sold orders and do not require an allocation

[ACRucrazy]

GTC cars are not sold on allocation. They are sold orders and do not require an allocation


I was told you can't even order an SRT, GTS, TA or regular GTC anymore, the plant is down to making ACRs only. Be it of the GTC varaity or not.

*shrug*

[mikesax]

I placed my order for my 17 in June when order banks opened-the same day! Concierge sent my vin by end of the month- recieved pics of my "purple" panels yesterday- they seem to email me an update about once a week POLICY!

[mikesax]

I was told you can't even order an SRT, GTS, TA or regular GTC anymore, the plant is down to making ACRs only. Be it of the GTC varaity or not.

*shrug*

Mine is a GTC-NON ACR!

[ACRucrazy]

Mine is a GTC-NON ACR!

This was recent, not early June before the Limited edition ACRs

[XSnake]

I was told you can't even order an SRT, GTS, TA or regular GTC anymore, the plant is down to making ACRs only. Be it of the GTC varaity or not.

*shrug*

simply not ture. in fact if you order a non acr car it will probably get done faster.

[Fourtrax250r]

I ordered my 17' ACR June 3, got a vin by June 9, and have been getting a message every week since then from the concierge (random facts about the Viper, how it's built, etc) July 28 I was messaged my body panels were being prepped and on Aug 3 received about 15 or so pictures of my completed/painted body panels! That's where I stand now... Should get another update next week..

[ek1]

A friend with a 16 ACR-E said his concierge sent him 150 pictures of the build from chasis to finish and contacted him weekly with updates. He ordered a 17 model 1.5 months ago and hasn't heard jack from anyone. I realize caap was closed for half of July but do you think the lack of communication is from getting 200 orders all at once or due to this controversy concerning engine failures? Has anyone else placed an order back in June and heard no reply?

Speaking with both the Viper Concierge after my car (2016) was shipped, as well as with people at CAAP during the tour, they have been completely swamped with orders ever since FCA officially announced the end of Viper production. This is most likely the reason.

[ViperTony]

Call a dealer and order one. Ben Keating mentioned they ordered ~200 '17s, mostly ACR Extremes and mostly customer orders. Local dealer ordered 6 ACR-E limited editions for customers. Woodhouse, etc. are all ordering Vipers. Buy one.

[uberpube]

I signed the sales order and put a downpayment around July 16th IIRC for one of the limited edition Snakesking Acr's and haven't heard a thing since then. I was told the delivery though would be 6-10 months away from the order date, so maybe it'll be awhile before they send me anything.

[ACRucrazy]

Speaking with both the Viper Concierge after my car (2016) was shipped, as well as with people at CAAP during the tour, they have been completely swamped with orders ever since FCA officially announced the end of Viper production. This is most likely the reason.


My understanding is that an order placed now/recently wait time will be significantly more than one placed right when the 2017 orders opened in early June because of the official announcement rush and limited editions.

It's interesting to see the feedback/times from everyone. I was told 12 months.

[ViperDC]

I ordered my 17' ACR June 3, got a vin by June 9, and have been getting a message every week since then from the concierge (random facts about the Viper, how it's built, etc) July 28 I was messaged my body panels were being prepped and on Aug 3 received about 15 or so pictures of my completed/painted body panels! That's where I stand now... Should get another update next week..

Sweet what are the last 4 of your VIN?

[ViperDC]

It's interesting to see the feedback/times from everyone. I was told 12 months.

well you were already told wrong that "theyre only building ACRs" so...

[ACRucrazy]

well you were already told wrong that "theyre only building ACRs" so...

I heard it from more than 1 dealer.
I was also told "we don't know" from more than 1.

[EZ 2B Green]

My understanding is that an order placed now/recently wait time will be significantly more than one placed right when the 2017 orders opened in early June because of the official announcement rush and limited editions.

It's interesting to see the feedback/times from everyone. I was told 12 months.

Well, if that is the case, I will be getting one of the very last Vipers built. I ordered a 2017 1 of 1 on August 1. It also would mean that 2017 ordering will be ending any day now due to no more capacity before the plant shuts down. It won't be long before we find out.

[ACRucrazy]

Ya I'm not saying what I've been told is right. I've been told different things by different people. I'm just curious what others are being told..

[Chorps]

I heard it from more than 1 dealer.
I was also told "we don't know" from more than 1.

I bet they only want ACRs at this point, the profit margin on the ACRs must be way better on those than the base cars.

[ACRucrazy]

I bet they only want ACRs at this point, the profit margin on the ACRs must be way better on those than the base cars.

This is exactly it.

[ViperJon]

I bet they only want ACRs at this point, the profit margin on the ACRs must be way better on those than the base cars.

Profit margin all around is better. Most dealers not coming off MSRP (or barely) and that is UNHEARD of previously on a Viper.
Of course, that all ends soon and then they are just used car dealers.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

I don't know anything "official" more than gathering information here and there. Putting the pieces together my advice would be those who want to order their own spec 2017 Viper should do so soon. There are a lot of variables at play here (plant capacity, parts shortages, supplier issues, high demand, unforeseen or unknown issues, last time buys, executive decisions, etc....... I definitely could be wrong but it seems ordering may either end sooner than later or be somehow restricted preventing the exact spec of car desired.

[ACR Extreme]

I signed the sales order and put a downpayment around July 16th IIRC for one of the limited edition Snakesking Acr's and haven't heard a thing since then. I was told the delivery though would be 6-10 months away from the order date, so maybe it'll be awhile before they send me anything.

I didn't sign anything /place a deposit dealer stated no need but was told order is in and haven't heard anything for a GTS - R.

Friend ordered a 1 of 1 few weeks prior and has been contacted by concierge.

My guess is they are sorting out orders and identifying customers on special editions.

Weirdest buying experience ever!

[ViperTony]

Put your orders in NOW. They sourced xx number of parts for the final year and demand suggests 2017 will sell out at least for the ACR according to couple of reputable dealers. Get your orders iN NOW.

[Policy Limits]

But I just want to win a free one like u did :)

[ViperTony]

but i just want to win a free one like u did :)

nve3

[DZnutz]

I didn't sign anything /place a deposit dealer stated no need but was told order is in and haven't heard anything for a GTS - R.

Friend ordered a 1 of 1 few weeks prior and has been contacted by concierge.

My guess is they are sorting out orders and identifying customers on special editions.

Weirdest buying experience ever!

If you havent signed anything then you dont own anything

[Policy Limits]

Yeah I've always signed a purchase order and have given a deposit in the past. Verbal order is OK if you have a history of doing bid-niss with the dealer though.

[ViperJon]

I didn't sign anything /place a deposit dealer stated no need but was told order is in and haven't heard anything for a GTS - R.

Friend ordered a 1 of 1 few weeks prior and has been contacted by concierge.

My guess is they are sorting out orders and identifying customers on special editions.

Weirdest buying experience ever!

You gotta be kidding. Verbal with no paperwork or deposit? Better change your signature. :D

[Fourtrax250r]

Sweet what are the last 4 of your VIN?

0044 .. looks like I put my order in JUST before the huge rush....

[mjorgensen]

Put your orders in NOW. They sourced xx number of parts for the final year and demand suggests 2017 will sell out at least for the ACR according to couple of reputable dealers. Get your orders iN NOW.

This^^^

And why on earth would you source any more parts than the plant needs?

sarcasm of course....

[ACR08]

ACR-Extreme, I would be a little worried that they didn't ask for a deposit. Might want to follow up with them. Maybe you have a special relationship with them. Also, if they aren't one of the big dealers I would be worried that are telling you they have an allocation they don't actually have. I've seen a post or two about dealers saying they have cars without actually having an allocation.

I do think the GTS-R is the best looking of the final editions. The others didn't really speak to me. Kind of wish I had tried to get one. Good luck and I hope you get one.

[Policy Limits]

My friend with the 1:28 order also signed and paid nothing but it's his 3rd viper order from the dealer so I guess it depends.

Imo that American themed red white & blue one will probably be the most epic of the special editions and will probably end up being one of the most epic vipers ever made.

[ACR Extreme]

ACR-Extreme, I would be a little worried that they didn't ask for a deposit. Might want to follow up with them. Maybe you have a special relationship with them. Also, if they aren't one of the big dealers I would be worried that are telling you they have an allocation they don't actually have. I've seen a post or two about dealers saying they have cars without actually having an allocation.

I do think the GTS-R is the best looking of the final editions. The others didn't really speak to me. Kind of wish I had tried to get one. Good luck and I hope you get one.

We had three people buying together - one could not wait and picked one off a lot.

The other person also has given no deposit nothing signed but was a prior customer received a call as mentioned above from concierge.

It's a larger dealer spoken with the owner sales and mechanic for upgrades - have no reason to doubt them with volumes of e-mail conversations text correspondence it's simply something I have never experienced odd on one hand but everything communicated so far has been spot on.

Agree the GTS - R is a very good combination would like to add all the cf bits which may have to be done at the dealer.

Signature stays :)

[ViperTony]

this^^^

and why on earth would you source any more parts than the plant needs?

Sarcasm of course....

lol.

[bluesrt]

We had three people buying together - one could not wait and picked one off a lot.

The other person also has given no deposit nothing signed but was a prior customer received a call as mentioned above from concierge.

It's a larger dealer spoken with the owner sales and mechanic for upgrades - have no reason to doubt them with volumes of e-mail conversations text correspondence it's simply something I have never experienced odd on one hand but everything communicated so far has been spot on.

Agree the GTS - R is a very good combination would like to add all the cf bits which may have to be done at the dealer.

Signature stays :)your will have the cf bits on the exterior

[ACR08]

Hey, I'm just curious. Are the limited edition ACRs "base ACRs" (three speaker stero and removed sound deadening) or are they like the GTC ACRs with the full stero and sound deadening?

[Policy Limits]

Pretty sure it's the 3 speaker.

[ACR Extreme]

Hey, I'm just curious. Are the limited edition ACRs "base ACRs" (three speaker stero and removed sound deadening) or are they like the GTC ACRs with the full stero and sound deadening?

Base ACR's - the GTS - R has the optional cf exterior package was told and I could be wrong there is a 10 speaker option and or the dealer can upgrade.

It seems awfully silly Viper does not allow a customer to add profitable options to the limited editions it's almost a pure profit center - time will tell.

[SharpMan]

I bet they only want ACRs at this point, the profit margin on the ACRs must be way better on those than the base cars.

Probably $50,000 profit per car on 1 of 1 ACR / GTC. Getting into Porsche profit territory!


You gotta be kidding. Verbal with no paperwork or deposit? Better change your signature. :D

I have a verbal and am on my third custom paint polyform from Concierge.

Regarding ACR vs non-ACR and parts...I can imagine that the demand has taken them a bit by surprise and they are no doubt facing a serious supply issue. It's not like their suppliers can produce 100% more ACR parts on short notice and the plant has a set closing date. Demand appears to be outstripping their ability to supply for the first time in a decade.

[Policy Limits]

I bet some orders take longer than 6 months. Just a hunch.

[ACRucrazy]

I bet some orders take longer than 6 months. Just a hunch.

I for one am totally OK with that seeing as the thick of winter starts here in 4 months.

[Policy Limits]

Agreed. Getting delivery in the snow wouldn't only blow, it'd be impossible

[ACR08]

So I placed my order on 29 July for a 1 of 1 and got a call from the concierge on 11 August that my build was approved. No VIN yet and the concierge was very clear that it was going to take some time with all the orders coming in. We discussed the possibility of the Viper selling out this year and he said he wouldn't be surprised if they get a call from the factory one day saying that's all folks. If you're thinking about getting one, I'd do it soon. I'm glad I finally did.

On a side note, the 1 of 1 program and the concierge service is pretty awesome. What a cool and special way to get your Viper. Highly recommend it.

[Dman]

Oh the irony, SRT figures out how to sell the car in the moment of discontinuing it.

Just sold my gen5 this weekend, now I need to decide what to do. ACR, ACR-E, order, inventory, or go a different direction all together. My bday is in Sept so I was going to pull the trigger on something then. I too would want a spring delivery on the timing if I order - although CAAP pick up might be a bucket list item if I ordered, even worthy of the logistics hassle to do it.

[keepat]

So I placed my order on 29 July for a 1 of 1 and got a call from the concierge on 11 August that my build was approved. No VIN yet and the concierge was very clear that it was going to take some time with all the orders coming in. We discussed the possibility of the Viper selling out this year and he said he wouldn't be surprised if they get a call from the factory one day saying that's all folks. If you're thinking about getting one, I'd do it soon. I'm glad I finally did.

On a side note, the 1 of 1 program and the concierge service is pretty awesome. What a cool and special way to get your Viper. Highly recommend it.

Congrats! let us know your vin # when you get it! I order a 1 of 1 ACR-E June 10th, approved June 30th, and assigned vin#500101 July 7th
good luck!
Pat

[BRACR]

My order is going in tomorrow. I sincerely hope it takes until late spring for my car to show up.....heading for Italy and Greece for two months beginning in September. Hawaii until the end of December and I am planning on going to all of the tennis slams next year.......only live once and I have two cardiac stents in the past year to prove it.

[Ludington1]

My order is going in tomorrow. I sincerely hope it takes until late spring for my car to show up.....heading for Italy and Greece for two months beginning in September. Hawaii until the end of December and I am planning on going to all of the tennis slams next year.......only live once and I have two cardiac stents in the past year to prove it.

Congrats! I love my "new" ACR and the care you put onto it is obvious throughout. This 2008 is amazing, I can't imagine how the 2017 will be!

Darren

[ViperDC]

My order is going in tomorrow. I sincerely hope it takes until late spring for my car to show up.....heading for Italy and Greece for two months beginning in September. Hawaii until the end of December and I am planning on going to all of the tennis slams next year.......only live once and I have two cardiac stents in the past year to prove it.

Damn. Sounds fun

[ACR08]

Congrats! let us know your vin # when you get it! I order a 1 of 1 ACR-E June 10th, approved June 30th, and assigned vin#500101 July 7th
good luck!
Pat

Got my VIN on 17 Aug. VIN 500276. Ordered 29 July. It's starting to feel real.

[ViperDC]

Got my VIN on 17 Aug. VIN 500276. Ordered 29 July. It's starting to feel real.

Congrats

[mikesax]

So for a time reference my vin-number 53- issued mid June - is now in final assembly! Got pics of the "go-cart" driving around yesterday! Looks like end of September for shipping! SWEET!

[Bill Pemberton]

Keep in mind that early orders always seem to get done a bit sooner than others -- they are in the pipeline when the plant reopens. Orders behind them have always taken a lot longer, and part of the reason folks wonder why one car took 4 months and theirs took 6 ---simple a lot more cars ahead of yours and scheduled when the first ones out were at the very beginning of the line.

PS - I believe Policy Limits will likely be correct.

[Batmobile]

Keep in mind that early orders always seem to get done a bit sooner than others -- they are in the pipeline when the plant reopens. Orders behind them have always taken a lot longer, and part of the reason folks wonder why one car took 4 months and theirs took 6 ---simple a lot more cars ahead of yours and scheduled when the first ones out were at the very beginning of the line.

PS - I believe Policy Limits will likely be correct.

I heard that the plant is not accepting anymore orders after August due to how many recent orders that were placed and orders place now could take up to a year due to the amount of orders that were placed in the past week or so

[XSnake]

I heard that the plant is not accepting anymore orders after August due to how many recent orders that were placed and orders place now could take up to a year due to the amount of orders that were placed in the past week or so

There is a dealer spreading that rumor but it's false. They are just trying to get people to order cars from them.

[Bill Pemberton]

Agree with Xnake ,the rumors seem to be getting silly with some Dealers giving exact dates that orders will cease, but as I mentioned before there is no set date. It is obvious to those of us who are selling a lot and with info we have received, that the sales are exceeding what SRT and Dodge expected. But no surprise to anyone on this Forum as many are aware of how quickly the Limited Models sold out to Dealers.

[ViperDC]

So for a time reference my vin-number 53- issued mid June - is now in final assembly! Got pics of the "go-cart" driving around yesterday! Looks like end of September for shipping! SWEET!

Sweet did you order an ACR?

[ACRucrazy]

Got my VIN on 17 Aug. VIN 500276. Ordered 29 July. It's starting to feel real.

So you are vin 276, + 237 special editions = 499 so far? + the orders that are still coming in. Math says 2017 will be a very busy model year..

What was 2016 production numbers? 635 or so? (I seem to recall that number, I could be wrong)

[ViperDC]

So you are vin 276, + 237 special editions = 499 so far? + the orders that are still coming in. Math says 2017 will be a very busy model year..

What was 2016 production numbers? 635 or so? (I seem to recall that number, I could be wrong)

Do the special editions have unique VINs or are they part of that 276?

That T/A orange 2016 ACR was # 645, that's the highest VIN I saw for the '16 model year

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Do the special editions have unique VINs or are they part of that 276?

That T/A orange 2016 ACR was # 645, that's the highest VIN I saw for the '16 model year

There were at least 100 prior to the special editions being ordered. Not sure how they are working those in to the system or if they have been yet.

[mikesax]

Sweet did you order an ACR?

Nope- GTC- Stryker Purple Advanced Aero- basically a TA 1.0 look!

[Voice of Reason]

I hope every 2017 is an ACR E, that way in 4 years when I'm ready to buy one I'll have a nice selection of low mile cars to choose from.

[ViperDC]

Nope- GTC- Stryker Purple Advanced Aero- basically a TA 1.0 look!

Sounds like it will be a badass car.

- - - Updated - - -


I hope every 2017 is an ACR E, that way in 4 years when I'm ready to buy one I'll have a nice selection of low mile cars to choose from.

I think there will be more Gen V ACRs than IV ACRs and they made plenty of those (600+)

[Policy Limits]

Keep in mind that early orders always seem to get done a bit sooner than others -- they are in the pipeline when the plant reopens. Orders behind them have always taken a lot longer, and part of the reason folks wonder why one car took 4 months and theirs took 6 ---simple a lot more cars ahead of yours and scheduled when the first ones out were at the very beginning of the line.

PS - I believe Policy Limits will likely be correct.

I might not always be right. ...but I'm never wrong ;)

[Lawrenzo]

Nope- GTC- Stryker Purple Advanced Aero- basically a TA 1.0 look!

I was just thinking about how awesome that would look- post pictures when you can!!!

[ViperDC]

Do the special editions have unique VINs or are they part of that 276?


Anyone know?

[canadian viper]

i would say they do not have unique vins.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/woodward-dream-cruise/2016/08/18/dodge-viper-owners-frustrated-cars-demise/88979454/


Fiat Chrysler has not announced the end of production for the Viper at Conner Avenue. However, it’s expected to go through mid-2017. Kuniskis said the plant “is booked” through March.

[Bill Pemberton]

This should alleviate the rumors of a set date for orders to cease of August 31st that has been stated from some Dealers. Kuniskis mentioning that the Plant is booked through March does give everyone a reasonable and reliable statement of how rapidly sales are going, though.

[Dman]

That's good news. Man, maybe I'll wait, waited this long, with FCA being such dicks at the moment, I need to decide if I want give them my money for a 9th time or not, a month or two to think about it would be nice.

[ACRucrazy]

This should alleviate the rumors of a set date for orders to cease of August 31st that has been stated from some Dealers. Kuniskis mentioning that the Plant is booked through March does give everyone a reasonable and reliable statement of how rapidly sales are going, though.

Didn't you state that the plant had stopped taking ordered of SRT, TA and TA 2.0 already?

[ViperDC]

This should alleviate the rumors of a set date for orders to cease of August 31st that has been stated from some Dealers. Kuniskis mentioning that the Plant is booked through March does give everyone a reasonable and reliable statement of how rapidly sales are going, though.

How many would you say have been sold so far?

[canadian viper]

How many would you say have been sold so far?

the vins are over 300 now. so i would guess close to 400?

[Policy Limits]

So statistically 20 special editions will fail? That's sad if it's the case.

[Bill Pemberton]

You can not order a SRT or GT, so you therefore can not order a TA 1.0 or 2.0 , as they were part of SRT order options. You can still order the TA 1.0 or TA 2.0 Option Groups on a 1 of 1 , but they are different in their actual content - no CB strut bar or back panel for instance. Of course the strut bar can be ordered separately.