What oil are you running.. Mobile 1 or pennzoil ultra?

[SRT_BluByU]

Wondering What oil you are running.. Mobile 1 or pennzoil ultra? Is there any difference?

[dewilmoth]

I run Mobil. Easy to get at Walmart in 5 quart jugs. But I'm sure this thread is about to turn into a good show.

[Martin]

Is it the oil that's been eating these engines?

[BlknBlu]

SRT will stand behind the oil that was recommended by each GEN.

Bruce

[DanH]

Mobil 1 European formula

[7TH_SIGN]

Mobil 1

[Roller]

Mobil 1 0W-40 European Formula for its higher zinc level.

[LmeaViper]

Pennzoil. You folks in the US can get it a lot easier than we can in Canader.

[ViperGeorge]

Dick Winkles did not recommend the Mobil One Turbo Diesel that I used to use. I'm using Penzoil now in my GTS but would feel fine using Mobil 1. In fact in my TA 2.0 I'm using Mobil One 15w50.

[ACR]

fry oil I filter through an old K/N air filter

Mobil 1 Euro 0w-40

[TrackAire]

fry oil I filter through an old K/N air filter

Mobil 1 Euro 0w-40

Fry oil is ok, but you'd better be sure you start with a good base stock:
http://www.amazon.com/Lucini-Virgin-Premium-Select-17-Ounce/dp/B00060NKU6

[Dave1968]

Amsoil 0w40 Signature series

[darbgnik]

Whatever quality 0-40 synthetic oil they have on the shelf. Coke, Pepsi, whatever...... lol.


I understand I might be the odd one out here, but I honestly don't believe it will make that much of a difference.

[Voice of Reason]

I have my dealer do my changes so factory fill 0-40 Penzoil it is.

[swexlin]

I have my dealer do my changes so factory fill 0-40 Penzoil it is.

Same here.

[XSnake]

Mobil 15-50

[ACR Steve]

Mobile 1 in the Viper and race car

[lochnessmonster]

The engineers at SRT designed the Gen V engine in conjunction with Shell. As a result, Shell formulated Pennzoil Ultra 0-40 synthetic specifically for our cars. In fact, it is recommended for all SRT engines. I tend to put my faith in the guys who actually built the engine, and designed the tolerances around this oil. Nothing else goes in my car, ever, and it's easy to get at any Chrysler dealership. They stock gobs of it, because as I said, it is supposed to go in all SRT engines. I was recently on a road trip, and noticed that I was at the bottom of the safe line, so I decided to hit the next dealership on my route: Moose Jaw, SK, Canada. Guess what? They had a quart ready to go for me instantly.........

[ViperPete]

Pennzoil.

Got 90 quarts of it on teh shelf in my garage.

[steve911]

Lest we forget, The ACR Owners Supplement recommends 15-50 for those who choose to exercise the car at the track.

I am not aware that Pennzoil offers a 15-50 so, Mobil 1 it is.

[Boba Fett]

The engineers at SRT designed the Gen V engine in conjunction with Shell. As a result, Shell formulated Pennzoil Ultra 0-40 synthetic specifically for our cars. In fact, it is recommended for all SRT engines. I tend to put my faith in the guys who actually built the engine, and designed the tolerances around this oil. Nothing else goes in my car, ever, and it's easy to get at any Chrysler dealership. They stock gobs of it, because as I said, it is supposed to go in all SRT engines. I was recently on a road trip, and noticed that I was at the bottom of the safe line, so I decided to hit the next dealership on my route: Moose Jaw, SK, Canada. Guess what? They had a quart ready to go for me instantly.........

I tend to think it has more to do with business and marketing than engineering...

[Bill Pemberton]

Business or not, Shell/Pennzoil got together with the SRT Engineers and formulated a 0-40W specifically for the Viper ( they did not have prior ). Used Mobil 1 for years and still think it is good stuff, but we switched to Shell/Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in the shop --- only synthetic made out of natural gas and claimed to be 25% cleaner than other synthetics. Makes sense considering what it is formulated from!

[ViperJon]

They formulated a special formula specifically for a car that sells 700 units a year?

[Bill Pemberton]

Yes, Jon...................it is now used in all the SRT vehicles , but straight from Engineers mouths at SRT. Shell even acknowledged they had not done something like this before, but sure no different than making a custom DOT tire for 200-400 ACRs.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

Unrelated but relevant - all of the Honda powered cars changed from X to Y oil mid week at the Indy 500 practice after 2 engine failures. Oil can make a difference under extreme conditions, but not sure IF there is a correct or incorrect answer here other than if you follow the manufacturers instructions at least you have that going for you if there is an issue. Mobil 1 seems to be the tried and true go-to oil, but that does not mean Penzoil is not as good or better for this application. Has anyone tried to correlate engine failure with oil type/weight? Could be interesting.

[Bill Pemberton]

Mobil 1 usage was 0-40W too. Oil has not been the issue, both Mobil 1 and Shell/Pennzoil are at the top, just new recommendation since 2013.

[sparkrn]

Mobil 0-40 in a gen 2

[quickster2]

Also the Ram 6.4L motors in the HD trucks were developed and durability tested with and specify Pennzoil Ultra 0-40.

[Steve-Indy]

sparkrn...yes. I am using Mobil 1 0W-40 in our street driven Gen I's and II's, ( and our Gen III, and IV's). For track use and for climates hotter than Indy, many go to Mobil 1 15W-50.

[KB Viper]

i'm using pennzoil

[Boba Fett]

Business or not, Shell/Pennzoil got together with the SRT Engineers and formulated a 0-40W specifically for the Viper ( they did not have prior ). Used Mobil 1 for years and still think it is good stuff, but we switched to Shell/Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in the shop --- only synthetic made out of natural gas and claimed to be 25% cleaner than other synthetics. Makes sense considering what it is formulated from!

Im sure you know more about this than me...Ill still tend to believe its more of a market strategy as there is a lot of "claiming" going on. They know many will use strictly what the manual says..

[lochnessmonster]

Im sure you know more about this than me...Ill still tend to believe its more of a market strategy as there is a lot of "claiming" going on. They know many will use strictly what the manual says..

Yeah, this is what I thought with respect to the rear differential fluid. Boy was I wrong. I put Pennzoil in but little did I know, it doesn't contain the friction modifier. My diff started making horrible noises immediately. I bought a $10 bottle of the modifier, put it in, and it's been quiet ever since. That's the last time I viewed the manufacturer's recommendation as "marketing".

[Dave1968]

That's all it is - marketing. Same thing with tires that come on stock vehicles. They buy 100,000 tires from whoever gives them the best deal. It used to be Mobile 1 that was on the fill caps of some high end cars, now it's Pennzoil. I suggest you look at the oils themselves and drain intervals as that will tell you who has the best additives package and that's the oil you want. It's not the base oil that gets "used up" it's the additive package ( ie. anti- corrosion additives, lubricity additives, dispersants, etc, etc, etc...). Drain interval is probably the easiest way to first compare and narrow down your choices as only the best oils will let you run them longer than others.

[ssgsnake]

Mobil 1

[IHOP]

Business or not, Shell/Pennzoil got together with the SRT Engineers and formulated a 0-40W specifically for the Viper ( they did not have prior ). Used Mobil 1 for years and still think it is good stuff, but we switched to Shell/Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in the shop --- only synthetic made out of natural gas and claimed to be 25% cleaner than other synthetics. Makes sense considering what it is formulated from!

Hmm, great info Bill! I always believed in Mobile 1 and in my old Gen II's back in early 2000's that's all I used. But something told me to just stick with factory oil since there have been some engine failures especially since I drive my car for what it was built for. I haven't had issues and I was thinking of switching but now may not with this information. Thank you Bill!

[lochnessmonster]

Uhhhh.................. You're welcome????