Which shift knob and where did you buy it?

[IHOP]

I would like to hear your opinions? I had the short round one on my Gen II's but I have no experience with the other one.

Thank you!

[Viper vince]

I am a Tool and Die maker and I can cut your stock shiver down for you

[Malu59RT]

IHOP,

I've had the second one (Gripper) in my Gen 4 and Gen 5, I love it! I've also bought 3 more as gifts for other Viper owners.


I am a Tool and Die maker and I can cut your stock shiver down for you

That would have been great a few weeks ago, I was looking to do the exact same thing. How much does it cost, and how far have you cut one so far? Any pics?

[Strykerviper2014]

I would like to hear your opinions? I had the short round one on my Gen II's but I have no experience with the other one.

Thank you!

I have the one in the top pic, awesome knob and easier and faster to shift

[IndyRon]

I have the bottom one and I like it also.

[ViperSmith]

i bought the top one. it took like 2 months for them to get it to me, was quite annoying.

[Dfunk]

I'm considering a gen 4 knob shaft assembly. The stock Gen 5 is to low for my liking.

[Viktimize]

I had the Gripper in my Gen3 just because it was the only thing available I could find to shorten that gigantic stock shifter. But round shift knobs are ugly, lame as phuk, and not ergonomically useful. Then I found out about the race knob in the top picture, and made sure I got that one for the GenV. Love it!! Shortened it up a nice amount, and it fits in your hand the way it is supposed to.

Got both from MGW. It used to be www.mgwltd.com But I'm not sure they carry any of the Viper stuff anymore. I just wanted the shift knob and didn't care what logo was on it. So I had to phone in and they got one out to me with just a basic 6 speed H-Pattern on top.

[drewsss]

I had the Gripper in my Gen3 just because it was the only thing available I could find to shorten that gigantic stock shifter. But round shift knobs are ugly, lame as phuk, and not ergonomically useful. Then I found out about the race knob in the top picture, and made sure I got that one for the GenV. Love it!! Shortened it up a nice amount, and it fits in your hand the way it is supposed to.

Got both from MGW. It used to be www.mgwltd.com But I'm not sure they carry any of the Viper stuff anymore. I just wanted the shift knob and didn't care what logo was on it. So I had to phone in and they got one out to me with just a basic 6 speed H-Pattern on top.

They don't.

[Coder]

I've got the top one, it took several months to come. it did finally arrive though and it's awesome.

http://i.imgur.com/tg6VG7O.jpg

[VIPEREPIV]

I have 3 different knobs and 3 different stick lengths. I just like to change things up. Link for 1 of my shift knobs: http://www.twmshiftknobs.com/shift-knobs/a6-leopard-shift-knobs.php

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/dave7zombie/b11cfd18-145d-4be7-9831-05c423b2fa1e_zps1fwympi1.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/dave7zombie/shift%203_zpsthzab1pj.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/dave7zombie/shift%201_zps2vqbjvcw.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/dave7zombie/shift%202_zpsgu2m1xeu.jpg

[IHOP]

I've got the top one, it took several months to come. it did finally arrive though and it's awesome.

http://i.imgur.com/tg6VG7O.jpg

I'm leaning this way also but who did you buy it from that it took so long? You can PM if you would prefer and that goes for any of you guys who had a long wait time.

[NHL2133]

I'm leaning this way also but who did you buy it from that it took so long? You can PM if you would prefer and that goes for any of you guys who had a long wait time.

Looks like The Viper Store has them. https://theviperstore.com/Viper5_Products_Performance_Shifters_More.htm

[Ninjakris]

I have the top one. I love the knob, but not the price I had to pay. Shipping was only a week or so when I ordered it.

[FrgMstr]

I have had four different styles and both in the pictures. When I went with the top one, it was perfect.

[zee]

Is this still the best place to buy the shifter that is pictured in the original post on the top? https://theviperstore.com/Viper5_Products_Performance_Shifters_More.htm

I like the stock one a lot but hearing good things about the top one so I thought I would give it a try.

[sadil]

Is this still the best place to buy the shifter that is pictured in the original post on the top? https://theviperstore.com/Viper5_Products_Performance_Shifters_More.htm

I like the stock one a lot but hearing good things about the top one so I thought I would give it a try.

It is the ONLY place to buy that shifter/knob. The original manufacturer was MGW. They eventually discontinued their viper products and the viper store bought all of their stock and raised the price. They are limited to how many they have left. Also, MGW makes excellent products. Really good engineering shop implementing shifting solutions for American cars.

[Dman]

I've used MGW I think for like 20 years, I don't know when they were founded, but I swear I had to one of their 1st clients, lol.

I've had their stuff in like 10 mustangs and 4 vipers. Top quality, real shame they gave up on viper. That TWM option posted above looks interesting.

I've tried probably 5 styles of shifter handles and the ball-gripper is number one in my book.

I was a dedicated drag strip guy, 5.0 shootout, etc., and so I do the elbow-out 3rd gear technique and the ball is the only handle I find allows me to position my hand in the 3 different ways I place it for shifting 1 to 2, 2 to 3, and downshifts. I don't get the 'stick' type, I've tried that one and it lasted a month and I pulled it, it forces your hand into a position vs the ball which accommodates any place of the fingers and palm, for open track events and drag strip duty. Just my opinion, I run a ball on my road race car as well for the same reason. I do have XL hands so not sure if that's a factor .. as much as it is in running for the presidency any way.

[No hemi]

I had the second one in my gen 3, ( gripper) and loved it, just sold it to buy another one ( but with stryker logo ) for my Gen V.

[Magzx12r]

I would like to hear your opinions? I had the short round one on my Gen II's but I have no experience with the other one.

Thank you!

I have tried both recently. I like the bottom one (ball) better.

[zee]

I have tried both recently. I like the bottom one (ball) better.

Isn't the bottom one really similar to the stock G5 shift knob? Why do you like it over the stock one?

[Magzx12r]

Isn't the bottom one really similar to the stock G5 shift knob? Why do you like it over the stock one?

It is shorter, so less "throw" than stock. It feels better when going through the gears quickly.

[ForTehNguyen]

ordered the can shaped one, took mine a couple weeks to ship

[ek1]

Does anyone know if there are rally-style (long) shifters available? I almost missed a gear a few times on a track. Things happen really fast there and a longer shifter would help. I dont care about the looks.

[13COBRA]

Does anyone know if there are rally-style (long) shifters available? I almost missed a gear a few times on a track. Things happen really fast there and a longer shifter would help. I dont care about the looks.

What Gen? My Gen IV stock shifter felt like I was driving a tractor.

[Dfunk]

Does anyone know if there are rally-style (long) shifters available? I almost missed a gear a few times on a track. Things happen really fast there and a longer shifter would help. I dont care about the looks.

http://www.ipsco.org/Viper_files/Shifter%20Knob%20Adapter.htm
3" is what you want than purchase any 1/2"-20 shift knob. I'm using the 3" with a 20mm diameter round plastic knob. It's much easier to use over stock for track use.

[ek1]

What Gen? My Gen IV stock shifter felt like I was driving a tractor.

Gen 5. I basically need at least an inch more height than the stock shifter and I would prefer a pistol grip knob rather than a ball.


I like Mr. Norm's shifters: 25272 Too flashy for my taste, but functional.

[AZTVR]

Does anyone know if there are rally-style (long) shifters available? Do you mean a shifter knob? Like this?: http://www.sneed4speed.com/t56-shift-knob/

Since IPSCO makes lowering kits (http://www.ipsco.org/Viper_files/Shifter%20lowering%20Kits.htm), perhaps they would make you one for raising your shifter knob. I don't know if Mark does special requests.

[ek1]

http://www.ipsco.org/Viper_files/Shifter%20Knob%20Adapter.htm
3" is what you want than purchase any 1/2"-20 shift knob. I'm using the 3" with a 20mm diameter round plastic knob. It's much easier to use over stock for track use.

Would the 3" be a direct bolt-in for a Gen V? Meaning can I take out the stock shaft and put the 3" in place?

[AZTVR]

Would the 3" be a direct bolt-in for a Gen V? Meaning can I take out the stock shaft and put the 3" in place? Just email Mark at IPSCO. He is a sponsor here and a helpful guy.

[ek1]

Just email Mark at IPSCO. He is a sponsor here and a helpful guy.

Just emailed him. Let's see what he says.

[ek1]

Do you mean a shifter knob? Like this?: http://www.sneed4speed.com/t56-shift-knob/

Since IPSCO makes lowering kits (http://www.ipsco.org/Viper_files/Shifter%20lowering%20Kits.htm), perhaps they would make you one for raising your shifter knob. I don't know if Mark does special requests.

Do you know if the Sneed knob would be a direct replacement for the stock ball?

[AZTVR]

Do you know if the Sneed knob would be a direct replacement for the stock ball?

Sorry; but, no, I have no direct knowledge. Time for another email to confirm what threads it has or if they have one that fits the Viper threads, if that is the style you are looking for.

[Nightstalker]

I've got the top one, it took several months to come. it did finally arrive though and it's awesome.

http://i.imgur.com/tg6VG7O.jpg


I have this one too. Love it!!! I bought it from the Viper Store.

[Dfunk]

Would the 3" be a direct bolt-in for a Gen V? Meaning can I take out the stock shaft and put the 3" in place?

Yes but the stock shifter ball is made into the steel shaft and not removable. If you like the stock knob just order the 1 1/4" extension from IPSCO. The threads of the stock shifter are 1/2"-20. The extension threads at top and bottom are the same, 1/2"-20.

[zee]

I have this one too. Love it!!! I bought it from the Viper Store.

How is the weight feel on this one compared to stock?

[Nightstalker]

^^^. It feels lighter.

[darbgnik]

I've got the top one, it took several months to come. it did finally arrive though and it's awesome.

http://i.imgur.com/tg6VG7O.jpg

Why do people like the shape of this one? Do you always leave your hand in the same position no matter which shift you're making?

[sadil]

Why do people like the shape of this one? Do you always leave your hand in the same position no matter which shift you're making?

I was always skeptical about this one due to its size and being so low..

[bluesrt]

I hate all of those. They are so ugly

[ek1]

Apologies to the OP - not trying to hijack this thread, but I continued my research into competition shifters.

So far I found two combos that may work (thanks go out to all the folks that provided me with links):

1. "Shifter Knob Adapter" ($135) http://www.shop.viperpartsusa.com/Shifter-Knob-Adapter-220-353-200-00.htm with Sneed 4 Speed T56 shifter knob ($106) http://www.sneed4speed.com/t56-shift-knob/. There is also a shorter version of the adapter for $33 from Viper Parts Rack: http://www.viperpartsrack.com/shift-adapter?keyword=shifter


2. TW Performance Competition Shift knob ($15 for 4" height, $137 for 7" height), they claim it already comes with an adapter from 1/2-20 to whatever TW shifter uses, AND it allows for height adjustment: https://www.twmperformance.com/shift-knobs/competition-series-shift-knob

Both shifters are knurled.


What do you guys think? Again, I dont care what it looks like, I care about not missing gears in the heat of the moment.

[bluesrt]

A good shift can shift anything

[sadil]

Apologies to the OP - not trying to hijack this thread, but I continued my research into competition shifters.

So far I found two combos that may work (thanks go out to all the folks that provided me with links):

1. "Shifter Knob Adapter" ($135) http://www.shop.viperpartsusa.com/Shifter-Knob-Adapter-220-353-200-00.htm with Sneed 4 Speed T56 shifter knob ($106) http://www.sneed4speed.com/t56-shift-knob/. There is also a shorter version of the adapter for $33 from Viper Parts Rack: http://www.viperpartsrack.com/shift-adapter?keyword=shifter


2. TW Performance Competition Shift knob ($15 for 4" height, $137 for 7" height), they claim it already comes with an adapter from 1/2-20 to whatever TW shifter uses, AND it allows for height adjustment: https://www.twmperformance.com/shift-knobs/competition-series-shift-knob

Both shifters are knurled.


What do you guys think? Again, I dont care what it looks like, I care about not missing gears in the heat of the moment.

Cant go wrong with the TW performance shift knob. The manual GTSR's used something similar.

[ForTehNguyen]

just put the shift knob in from viper store like the one Coder posted. Much better than the baseball, simple installation, height adjustable

[Dr.Ron]

I like the stock shifter ball leather. It looks and feels very nice.
Can the stock ball go on the viperstore's shorter stick?

Ron

[13COBRA]

I like the stock shifter ball leather. It looks and feels very nice.
Can the stock ball go on the viperstore's shorter stick?

Ron

If you just want a shorter one, just order a lowering kit for your shifter. I just installed the 2" on mine, and I love it.

[Dr.Ron]

Link? ;)

[13COBRA]

Link? ;)

http://www.ipsco.org/Viper_files/Shifter%20lowering%20Kits.htm

EDIT:

Here's their installation guide that I used. Worked like a charm.

http://www.ipsco.org/Viper_files/GEN%20IV%20STS%20Installation%20Instructions%20v0% 207.pdf

[Dr.Ron]

Hmmm. For a Gen 4. Will that work ion a Gen V or is there one for a Gen V?

Thanks for the link!

[13COBRA]

Hmmm. For a Gen 4. Will that work ion a Gen V or is there one for a Gen V?

Thanks for the link!

Ah, I'm not sure if it works on a Gen V or not. My apologies! I didn't think that through very well. I'm sure someone else can comment.

[Dr.Ron]

I'll call Ipsco.

Thanks!!!

[Dr.Ron]

Anyone have instructions on removing the center console to get to the shifter. You have to get down below where the shifter stick mounts and to do that you have to remove some of the center console on a Gen V as per IPSCO. I searched and came up empty.

[serpent]

I just popped out the 3 rivets, its quite easy.

The PITA was removing the stock shifter and nut, seemed like it was bolted on to all hell.

Finally installed the barrel short throw... WOW, fucking love it, feels waay more solid. Like I can power shift the shit out of this thing, but i wont. Love the solid feel. :icon_devil:


Those with the Barrel short throw, how did you guys get the boot to go above the nut? Mine current has the nut still showing :(

[Dr.Ron]

Thanks. I got it all done. It was fairly simple. I had to get a set of crow feet wrenches though and that did the trick.
I got the 1" shortening kit from IPSCO & it's great!

Ron

[q8blueviper]

any one tried speed dawg shift knobs?
I think they look great specially you can custom your shift knob !

https://www.speeddawg.com/dodge-viper-5th-gen-rally-stripe-shift-knob/

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[goodee]

any one tried speed dawg shift knobs?
I think they look great specially you can custom your shift knob !


I got one for my Gen2 in Red with Black lettering and Sneaky Pete. I'm going to have to get a small extension since mounting it straight to the shaft leaves the replacement ball quite low. I don't mind that much but you lose a lot of leverage and quick shifting becomes a little more difficult. I may have to just break down and get the IPSCO shifter now.

[Fatboy 18]

any one tried speed dawg shift knobs?
I think they look great specially you can custom your shift knob !

https://www.speeddawg.com/dodge-viper-5th-gen-rally-stripe-shift-knob/

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Thanks for the link, Great find. :t1236:

[CNU_Physics]

I might be interested in this one but what do you set the adapter thread size to?

[VIPER BAZ UK]

Just ordered mine Mark...

Adapter comes from Mark at Ipsco http://www.ipsco.org/Viper.htm

[OTHER SNAKE OWNER]

6 speed pattern (like factory), exterior finish modified, MGW barrel style here as I cannot stand ball style knobs. It is awesome. To the question of hand/wrist position with the barrel style, if you are truly rowing gears for spirited driving or dragging, 4th gear should be the only one you need to change position on. 1-2, 2-3 can all be the "holding a beer can position" to "no grip palm contact on front side of the barrel to push it backwards" from 3rd to 4th, or "hand upside down holding a beer can position (hand flipped over, thumb on rear side of the barrel, other fingers front side)" from 3rd to 4th gear. I use the same shift grip style on my 03 Terminator (factory leather knob, Magnum T56 transmission)

[TRH62]

How does the original knob come off? Is it as simple as screwing the old one off and just screwing the new one on?


Thanks for the link, Great find. :t1236:

[chris_lee]

I loved the Mopar shifter from my challenger. LOVED IT. Gotta find something like it for the viper
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[IHOP]

I loved the Mopar shifter from my challenger. LOVED IT. Gotta find something like it for the viper
34241

That is awesome however in Az I would burn my damn hand off!

[Matt Dillon]

I loved the Mopar shifter from my challenger. LOVED IT. Gotta find something like it for the viper
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Guess I just don't get it, this one is Round just like the Gen. V shifters, to me these seem like they would be easier to shift than the oval ones some guys prefer? jmo

[13COBRA]

Guess I just don't get it, this one is Round just like the Gen. V shifters, to me these seem like they would be easier to shift than the oval ones some guys prefer? jmo

Than the barrel ones? This is my first barrel knob and I love it. Won't ever go back to a ball one.

[IHOP]

Than the barrel ones? This is my first barrel knob and I love it. Won't ever go back to a ball one.

That's what I ended up buying a while ago and I love it too!

[serpent]

Than the barrel ones? This is my first barrel knob and I love it. Won't ever go back to a ball one.
Had a ball one on my mustang. Changed to the barrel and will never get ball either!

[Fatboy 18]

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/26212467024_5ae2f3908a_z.jpg

My shift knob came from MGW when they were producing licenced stuff, so it has the Sneaky Pete logo on the side, but its basically the same size as the other cue ball shifters shown.
Love it.

[LateToTheParty]

Just bought this from Speed Dawg - Carbon SRT. I spoke with the owner, Chris -- nice guy and great customer service. Also picked up the short throw machined shaft from IPSCO. The pic doesn't do it justice.

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc400/ptibbett/20180901_213210_resized_zpstid1s2p8.jpg (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/ptibbett/media/20180901_213210_resized_zpstid1s2p8.jpg.html)

[Robbys3m3]

I might be interested in this one but what do you set the adapter thread size to?

This^^ anyone know the answer for the thread?

[Robbys3m3]

1/2-20

[TRH62]

I've ordered a new shifter ball from speeddawg and need to know what shaft would I need to get and from who to keep my original length. Not wanting to go any shorter than it already is. Sadly they don't provide a shaft with the knob.

Thanks

[bassplayrr]

I've ordered a new shifter ball from speeddawg and need to know what shaft would I need to get and from who to keep my original length. Not wanting to go any shorter than it already is. Sadly they don't provide a shaft with the knob.

Thanks

I ordered one from IPSCO. He has three lengths, none of which are an exact match to the OE length. He estimated one to be about 1/2” shorter than stock and the other to be about 1/2” longer. I went with the shorter one, which should arrive Tuesday. I’m using it with a SpeedDawg as well, so I’ll be sure to post a pic or two once I have it installed.

[AbsolutHank]

How does the original knob come off? Is it as simple as screwing the old one off and just screwing the new one on?

Hey Tony. Seems like the shifter boot and cover just pop up

http://www.billswebspace.com/viper86.jpg

[TRH62]

That's awesome! Thanks brother!

- - - Updated - - -

That would be great!

Thanks


I ordered one from IPSCO. He has three lengths, none of which are an exact match to the OE length. He estimated one to be about 1/2” shorter than stock and the other to be about 1/2” longer. I went with the shorter one, which should arrive Tuesday. I’m using it with a SpeedDawg as well, so I’ll be sure to post a pic or two once I have it installed.

[bassplayrr]

I finally had a chance to install the speeddawg knob and ipsco 2” shaft. With the 2” shaft+ extra jam nut you’re damn close to the original length/height of the original setup. A few notes: my speeddawg knob had some overflow epoxy (used to join the knob to the brass threads) that was keeping the knob from screwing down sufficiently into the shaft. A quick 30 second fix with a dremmel. Also, as others have stated, the jam nut on the stock setup is shockingly tight, so be prepared to use some gusto. Finally, also as noted by others, the trim clip to the left of the knob wants to stay with the tunnel and not the trim. Mine did and then proceeded to fall down into the tunnel. If yours does the same, some gentle prying at the edge of the tunnel where the trim meets the carpet should allow the clip to fall out. 3434934350

[TRH62]

I've ordered a speeddawg shifter ball also and cannot wait to get it. Thanks for posting this.

[Matt Dillon]

I finally had a chance to install the speeddawg knob and ipsco 2” shaft. With the 2” shaft+ extra jam nut you’re damn close to the original length/height of the original setup. A few notes: my speeddawg knob had some overflow epoxy (used to join the knob to the brass threads) that was keeping the knob from screwing down sufficiently into the shaft. A quick 30 second fix with a dremmel. Also, as others have stated, the jam nut on the stock setup is shockingly tight, so be prepared to use some gusto. Finally, also as noted by others, the trim clip to the left of the knob wants to stay with the tunnel and not the trim. Mine did and then proceeded to fall down into the tunnel. If yours does the same, some gentle prying at the edge of the tunnel where the trim meets the carpet should allow the clip to fall out. 3434934350

What made you want to get the yellow shifter when you have the red stitching in your interior (or is it yellow I couldn't really tell) JW

[bassplayrr]

Something odd with the lighting in the photo doesn't make it look off. The stitching is a light orange (y'orange?) and the knob is a very, very close color match in person.

[serpent]

Anyone know where we can order an alcantara shift boot for the gen V?

[bassplayrr]

Anyone know where we can order an alcantara shift boot for the gen V?

Admittedly, I wasn't paying super close attention and it's hard to absolutely confirm in this pic, but I believe the shift boot is glued to the underside of the trim. Glued, and of an odd shape underneath. I've never seen an alcantera aftermarket boot, but I can't see it being too tough to cut out the original and have a local interior shop stitch together a new, alcantera one for you.

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[ViperGTS14]

Seeing a few threads about shift knobs but nothing about actual aftermarket shifters for gen 5 vipers. Is there such an animal or are our shifters not worth updating?

[darbgnik]

The Gen 5 shifter is really that much a step up that there hasn't been a need. They are very accurate.

IIRC, they may have been redesigned to make them lower, and were improved along the way....

[TRH62]

39632

From Speed Dawg and I really like it.

[ViperGTS14]

The Gen 5 shifter is really that much a step up that there hasn't been a need. They are very accurate.

IIRC, they may have been redesigned to make them lower, and were improved along the way....

Interesting, just surprises me since we always see aftermarket parts for these trans's regardless.

[8400cc]

I've got the top one, it took several months to come. it did finally arrive though and it's awesome.

http://i.imgur.com/tg6VG7O.jpg

Was any extra hardware required to get this shifter to sit that low?

[13COBRA]

Was any extra hardware required to get this shifter to sit that low?

No.

I actually had to get an IPSCO "lowering" fitting to actually raise mine up a little in a Gen IV with the MGW Shifter.

[parabs]

Anyone have instructions on removing the center console to get to the shifter. You have to get down below where the shifter stick mounts and to do that you have to remove some of the center console on a Gen V as per IPSCO. I searched and came up empty.

I just slid the boot down the shaft of the oem shifter. It was fast and easy to remove and install my Ipsco lowering shaft and speeddawg knob.

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[phantomapollyon]

For anyone with the MGW "Barrel Grip" / "Gripper" knob - Does anyone have the measurements? (height, width, weight) I looked around a bit and aren't seeing them anywhere.

[TheMadMachinist]

phantomapollyon, I can't help you with any measurements. Just an excuse to post a picture of my own.49039

[phantomapollyon]

phantomapollyon, I can't help you with any measurements. Just an excuse to post a picture of my own.

Can totally appreciate it, but definitely still would like to grab measurements from someone if possible. ;)

[Whiskey]

After a lot of playing around, I ended up with the shortest bolt from IPSCO with a stock Gen3/4 knob. Looks 100% factory but looses the dampener. There is even more precise feel. I swear I can feel sync rows spin up and teeth engage.

[FrgMstr]

phantomapollyon, I can't help you with any measurements. Just an excuse to post a picture of my own.49039

I love it when folks curse with proper punctuation. :)