View Full Version : 15 Viper GT - VBox 60 to 130 run with for Arrow PCM only - Verified time
timberwolf
10-05-2015, 09:48 AM
I was able to get things sorted with the Vbox and did another run yesterday. I know she still has more in her as I ran during the day, vs an evening when the tarmac is still warm, but the air is denser and colder. I will say that this car has the best traction of any car I've ever owned. Granted it's a massive tire, the C6 Z06s I had where no where near this level of grip.
Regardless I wanted to achieve 6s with just the Arrow PCM. As Nineball has proven before, this car is fast. It's modified car fast, and with a canned tune only it gets even quicker. I'm sure with the right fuel amounts, temperatures and fast shifts it's got mid 6s.
I shifted quickly on this run, but I was also being cautious. You can miss that 2nd 3rd shift easily when being overzealous.
Another issue which our fellow Floridians and Texans don't have is ideal slope. It is what it is.
Notes:
2 shifts (no lift)
62 degrees
1800 miles on the car
1/4 tank of gas
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5763/21977533821_a8d08e01f4_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zu5B7V)vbox data (https://flic.kr/p/zu5B7V)
Nine Ball
10-05-2015, 09:53 AM
6.X is hauling ass for most street cars. That is why these cars do so well from 60 rolls. I need to go try my car with the Arrow/Headers. No-lift-shift that 3-4 and you'll probably shave another tenth easily.
Jdmuscle
10-05-2015, 09:57 AM
Very nice... So all you have is an out of the box tune?
pdv25
10-05-2015, 09:59 AM
Great time!!!!!!!!!
timberwolf
10-05-2015, 10:03 AM
6.X is hauling ass for most street cars. That is why these cars do so well from 60 rolls. I need to go try my car with the Arrow/Headers. No-lift-shift that 3-4 and you'll probably shave another tenth easily.
I was not lifting.... lol With lifts you're talking high 7s or 8s. With headers you have a few more tenths I'd say.
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Very nice... So all you have is an out of the box tune?
Yup. I bought the car from Bernie at Viper Exchange with the Arrow PCM installed. No other mods engine mods.
timberwolf
10-05-2015, 10:05 AM
Great time!!!!!!!!!
Strap a vbox on to your car soon!!!!!
v10tt
10-05-2015, 11:19 AM
6.9 is very nice!!
timberwolf
10-05-2015, 11:54 AM
6.9 is very nice!!
It's a good starting point lol!
Snakebit10
10-05-2015, 02:45 PM
Not bad for those small mods. Not too many non-hyper completely bone stock cars can break into the 6 sec range 60-130. Only the Mclarens come to mind. Would love to see PDV's 60-130 as well. I'm guessing around 5.7 - 6 secs flat.
7TH_SIGN
10-05-2015, 02:54 PM
The top end these Gen V have is awesome. Something that previous generations lack.
timberwolf
10-05-2015, 03:14 PM
Not bad for those small mods. Not too many non-hyper completely bone stock cars can break into the 6 sec range 60-130. Only the Mclarens come to mind. Would love to see PDV's 60-130 as well. I'm guessing around 5.7 - 6 secs flat.
With the nitrous it has to be in the 4s! Without? I have no clue. He needs to get his hands on a vbox asap. Prob low 6s or even 5s if he skips leg and chest day that week. lol
timberwolf
10-05-2015, 03:16 PM
The top end these Gen V have is awesome. Something that previous generations lack.
I hope my post is helping to convince you to keep your car brother!
pdv25
10-05-2015, 03:37 PM
With the nitrous it has to be in the 4s! Without? I have no clue. He needs to get his hands on a vbox asap. Prob low 6s or even 5s if he skips leg and chest day that week. lol
LOL!!!!!!!!!
The viper is a bit faster (motor only) than my old GTR which went 6.4. On nitrous I have no clue what it would do.
timberwolf
10-05-2015, 03:39 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!
The viper is a bit faster (motor only) than my old GTR which went 6.4. On nitrous I have no clue what it would do.
I'm sure a custom tune with no cats etc is worth some solid ponies. No canned tune can achieve that. You should def do a vbox with a without the juice. If it were my vbox I'd ship to florida for quick getaway.
pdv25
10-05-2015, 03:44 PM
I'm sure a custom tune with no cats etc is worth some solid ponies. No canned tune can achieve that. You should def do a vbox with a without the juice. If it were my vbox I'd ship to florida for quick getaway.
I'll do a nitrous pull. To do a motor pull I would want to put back my factory plugs and factory wheels. I'll try and borrow a V-box soon.
timberwolf
10-05-2015, 03:49 PM
I'll do a nitrous pull. To do a motor pull I would want to put back my factory plugs and factory wheels. I'll try and borrow a V-box soon.
It's a great way to squash all the BS you read on the forums. Like the crap you read on 6speed lol... 4s are 4s so shut the eff up!! lol I'm tempted to post the results on the corvette forum, but they are fragile these days.
7TH_SIGN
10-05-2015, 04:13 PM
I hope my post is helping to convince you to keep your car brother!
It is :)
vegasgtr
10-05-2015, 04:27 PM
6.9 for an all motor car with just a tune is EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE. I love the elevation 40ft lol.! My Vbox shows 3190ft.
Just waiting for slightly cooler days and ill be back at it. I would love anything in 7s at my elevation.
6.9 is going to trap around 133. IMPRESSIVE
Jdmuscle
10-05-2015, 09:53 PM
If a Tune only car traps 133... I think a lot more potential C7Z buyers will be swinging this way. That is if they make an informed decision. Lots of fanbois out there though!!
My car trapped 132mph stock. I am pretty sure a tuned one can do 133 in equal or better conditions.
Jdmuscle
10-05-2015, 10:17 PM
What does a bone stock gen V do in a 60-130 run?
1.8T, did you have any DRs or was it on stock tires as well?
Stock tires, stock everything...
Nine Ball
10-06-2015, 06:03 AM
Here is what my Gen 3 ran, at around 1200 rwhp at the time. Paxton + Nitrous. It has trapped 154 in the quarter, for reference.
http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/ynotdv8/Viper/60-130-4_61.jpg
Nine Ball
10-06-2015, 06:08 AM
What does a bone stock gen V do in a 60-130 run?
7.32 here
My stock '14 TA, on stock tires. This was at the drag strip, with bad traction issues. Trapped 131 best that day. Wish I had put the V-box in the other stock Gen 5 that trapped 134.6 mph that day. This was good weather though, -1050 ft DA.
http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/ynotdv8/2014%20Viper%20TA/60-130-7_32-ViperTA.jpg
Jdmuscle
10-06-2015, 06:23 AM
Thank Tony... Those are some impressive numbers for a stock car. I remember trapping around 132 in my heads n cam Z. I think I could've done a bit better but let see what I can get out of this car when I make it out to a track.
Nine Ball
10-06-2015, 07:00 AM
It's a great way to squash all the BS you read on the forums. Like the crap you read on 6speed lol... 4s are 4s so shut the eff up!! lol I'm tempted to post the results on the corvette forum, but they are fragile these days.
There was a thread on Corvetteforum comparing C7Z 60-130 times. The automatics were a tiny bit faster. All of them were 8.3+ range. Some of them were comparing Viper potential, then I posted my 7.32 and the thread went silent. http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3614830-z06-a8-0-150-mph.html
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FLATOUT
10-06-2015, 07:26 AM
There was a thread on Corvetteforum comparing C7Z 60-130 times. The automatics were a tiny bit faster. All of them were 8.3+ range. Some of them were comparing Viper potential, then I posted my 7.32 and the thread went silent. http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3614830-z06-a8-0-150-mph.html
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Lol that's just mean.
Jdmuscle
10-06-2015, 08:05 AM
There was a thread on Corvetteforum comparing C7Z 60-130 times. The automatics were a tiny bit faster. All of them were 8.3+ range. Some of them were comparing Viper potential, then I posted my 7.32 and the thread went silent. http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3614830-z06-a8-0-150-mph.html
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Tony... You already know they are hating on the vipers cause we do not have issues and they only have issues. Now why would you rub it in that the vipers are much faster?? Lol but good job though!! :)
Honestly I really love the C7Z but just can't look past its issues.. Just too many of them to even comfortably buy one and enjoy it without being paranoid all the time if it's going to give up on me etc. GM pretty much took the QC department and set them on fire or something... The cars are just very inconsistent.
timberwolf
10-06-2015, 10:27 AM
Tony... You already know they are hating on the vipers cause we do not have issues and they only have issues. Now why would you rub it in that the vipers are much faster?? Lol but good job though!! :)
Honestly I really love the C7Z but just can't look past its issues.. Just too many of them to even comfortably buy one and enjoy it without being paranoid all the time if it's going to give up on me etc. GM pretty much took the QC department and set them on fire or something... The cars are just very inconsistent.
What I don't understand is how slow the automatics are 60 to 130, but in videos they are pulling vipers with ease. Granted most guys don't get every ounce out of the viper, but still!!
The Viper is one of the few manual cars I have driven that if you don't no lift shift, suffers a decent performance decrease in straight line acceleration. At the track it was good for 2mph.
Nine Ball
10-06-2015, 10:55 AM
What I don't understand is how slow the automatics are 60 to 130, but in videos they are pulling vipers with ease. Granted most guys don't get every ounce out of the viper, but still!!
Hurtful truth time.
Most manual drivers cannot drive well. Most manual drivers only think they drive well. I've yet to see any C7Z (or ZR1) trap higher than I've driven a Gen 5 Viper. Trap speeds tell you their potential from a 60 mph rolling start. The data backs it up.
From a dead stop, however, it would be very difficult to beat the automatic trans Z06. Automatics are just much easier to launch, zero skill required.
timberwolf
10-06-2015, 10:57 AM
The Viper is one of the few manual cars I have driven that if you don't no lift shift, suffers a decent performance decrease in straight line acceleration. At the track it was good for 2mph.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I would have lose most races if I didn't no lift at this event at Pocono. Period. A few great examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1MXsrVvuT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDP_8FSvsmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUBF2X4zWiE
timberwolf
10-06-2015, 11:02 AM
Hurtful truth time.
Most manual drivers cannot drive well. Most manual drivers only think they drive well. I've yet to see any C7Z (or ZR1) trap higher than I've driven a Gen 5 Viper. Trap speeds tell you their potential from a 60 mph rolling start. The data backs it up.
From a dead stop, however, it would be very difficult to beat the automatic trans Z06. Automatics are just much easier to launch, zero skill required.
We need brand ambassadors in the street racing and roll racing world. "Nope doesn't count. You aren't an official SRT hooligan driver..." lol
Nine Ball
10-06-2015, 11:10 AM
We need brand ambassadors in the street racing and roll racing world. "Nope doesn't count. You aren't an official SRT hooligan driver..." lol
If Dodge/SRT wants to sponsor a deal, I'm game. Hell, maybe GM should re-hire me for consulting and testing. :)
Nine Ball
10-06-2015, 11:12 AM
The Viper is one of the few manual cars I have driven that if you don't no lift shift, suffers a decent performance decrease in straight line acceleration. At the track it was good for 2mph.
Absolutely correct. Even when shifting VERY fast, you can still gain 1-2 mph easily by powershifting (no lifting throttle). Likely due to those electric throttle bodies having to close and then slowly re-open if you lift.
vegasgtr
10-06-2015, 11:45 AM
Here is what my Gen 3 ran, at around 1200 rwhp at the time. Paxton + Nitrous. It has trapped 154 in the quarter, for reference.
http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/ynotdv8/Viper/60-130-4_61.jpg
Hard to get into the 4's shifting ! good driving.
I went 4.39 with 832whp. Wish the viper had a DCT lol. elevation is 2700+ Da around 4000
timberwolf
10-06-2015, 11:49 AM
Hard to get into the 4's shifting ! good driving.
I went 4.39 with 832whp. Wish the viper had a DCT lol. elevation is 2700+ Da around 4000
That's seriously fast for that power level.
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